Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 13:54:30 11/10/03
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On November 10, 2003 at 16:18:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>Tell that chessbase, not me.
>The positions and games I posted are those in question.
>I could not find many 'computer' moves in the other games I have checked.
>
>http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten.asp?newsid=2582
>
>Einzig unangenehmes Vorkommnis war die Disqualifikation zweier Spieler aus dem
>Kandidatenturnier, die mit Hilfe von Schachprogrammen gespielt hatten.
>Disqualifiziert wurden IM Emil Shaposhnikov ("E-Shaposhnikov") und IM Roman
>Popov ("Abrau"). Das Urteil der Turnierleitung, die von GM Rainer Knaak
>schachlich beraten wurden, war in beiden Fällen einstimmig.
>
>Michael
Michael,
sorry if you got the impression that I was criticising you. I was only thinking
aloud. And, thanks for the link. I went there and picked up most of the games
played by Shaposnikov. BTW, as I beat a lot of guys who took part in the
candidates qualifier, I know their respective strengths at blitz, say, Drunken
Diva, Chesbolo, Sekstro, etc. Nothing strange that a guy like Shaposnikov with
a rating of aobut 2800 blitz beat them all and then started offering draws once
he was sure that had qualified. BTW, he suffered from terrible lag too. I went
through the games quickly, and though not as exper as GM Knaak, I have to say
that I see no evidence of cheating. The suspect games:
(130) E-Shaposhnikov (2774) - ADevyatkin (2578)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (3), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Sd2 dxe4 4.Sxe4 Lf5 5.Sg3 Lg6 6.h4 h6 7.Sf3 Sd7 8.h5 Lh7 9.Ld3
Lxd3 10.Dxd3 e6 11.Lf4 Da5+ 12.Ld2 Dc7 13.0-0-0 Sgf6 14.Se4 0-0-0 15.g3 Le7
16.Sxf6 Sxf6 17.Lf4 Ld6 18.Lxd6 Txd6 19.Da3 Kb8 20.Se5 Thd8 21.f4 Txd4 22.Txd4
Txd4 23.Df8+ Dd8 24.Dxd8+ Txd8 25.Sxf7 Td5 26.Se5 Sd7 27.c4 Td4 28.Sxd7+ Txd7
29.Kc2 Kc7 30.Te1 Td6 31.b4 Kd7 32.Te3 Ke7 33.Td3 Txd3 34.Kxd3 Kd6 35.Kd4 Kd7
36.c5 Ke8 37.Ke5 Ke7 38.g4 Kd7 39.g5 Ke7 40.a4 Kf7 41.Kd6 a6 42.a5 e5 43.Kxe5
Ke7 44.gxh6 gxh6 45.f5 ADevyatkin resigns 1-0
(199) E-Shaposhnikov (2757) - Visam (2634)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (5), 08.11.2003
1.e3 Sf6 2.Sf3 g6 3.d4 Lg7 4.Le2 0-0 5.0-0 c5 6.c3 b6 7.Sbd2 Lb7 8.Se5 d6 9.Lf3
d5 10.Le2 Se4 11.Sxe4 dxe4 12.f4 Sd7 13.Sxd7 Dxd7 14.dxc5 Dxd1 15.Txd1 bxc5
16.Td7 Lc6 17.Txe7 Tfc8 18.Lc4 Le8 19.Ld5 Tab8 20.Txa7 Td8 21.Lxe4 Td1+ 22.Kf2
Lb5 23.a4 Tf1+ 24.Kg3 Lc4 25.a5 h5 26.a6 Lf6 27.Tb7 h4+ 28.Kh3 Ta8 29.a7 Kg7
30.Txf7+ Lxf7 31.Lxa8 Tg1 32.e4 Le6+ 33.f5 gxf5 34.Ld5 Ld7 35.e5 Lxe5 36.a8D f4+
37.Kxh4 Lf6+ 38.Kh5 Visam resigns 1-0
(266) flibi (2657) - E-Shaposhnikov (2769)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (6), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c5 2.Sf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Sxd4 a6 5.c4 Sf6 6.Sc3 Lb4 7.Ld3 Dc7 8.Sde2 Sc6
9.0-0 Se5 10.Lf4 Le7 11.Tc1 d6 12.h3 0-0 13.b3 b6 14.Lb1 Lb7 15.Le3 Sed7 16.f4
Tfe8 17.g4 Sf8 18.Sg3 Tad8 19.De2 S6d7 20.Df2 Lh4 21.g5 Sg6 22.Df3 f5 23.gxf6
Sxf6 24.Sh5 Tf8 25.Kh2 Kh8 26.Tg1 Tde8 27.Sxf6 Lxf6 28.Se2 Se7 29.Dh5 g6 30.Dg4
Sf5 31.exf5 exf5 32.Dg3 De7 33.Tc3 Lxc3 34.Lf2 Lg7 35.Sd4 Le4 36.Te1 Df7 37.Lxe4
fxe4 38.Le3 d5 39.cxd5 Dxd5 40.Td1 Tc8 41.Td2 Tc3 42.Df2 Td3 43.Txd3 exd3 44.Sf3
De4 45.Sd2 Df5 46.Kg3 g5 47.fxg5 De5+ 48.Lf4 De2 49.Dxe2 dxe2 50.Sf3 Lc3 51.Ld6
Txf3+ flibi abandonne 0-1
(273) E-Shaposhnikov (2782) - kharlov (2625)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (7), 08.11.2003
1.e4 e5 2.Lc4 d6 3.Sf3 Le7 4.d4 exd4 5.Sxd4 Sf6 6.Sc3 0-0 7.0-0 c6 kharlov
offers a draw
8.Lf4 b5 9.Ld3 a6 10.Te1 c5 11.Sf3 Lb7 12.a3 Sbd7 13.Lf1 Sb6 14.Dd3 d5 15.exd5
Sfxd5 16.Sxd5 Sxd5 17.Le5 Te8 18.c4 bxc4 19.Dxc4 Db6 20.Tad1 Tad8 21.Lg3 Dxb2
22.Tb1 Dxa3 23.Txb7 h6 24.Td1 Se3 25.Txd8 Sxc4 26.Txe8+ Kh7 27.Texe7 Sa5 28.Tbc7
c4 29.Txf7 kharlov resigns 1-0
(370) E-Shaposhnikov (2806) - bazar-wokzal (2650)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (9), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c5 2.Sf3 Sc6 3.Lb5 g6 4.0-0 Lg7 5.Te1 Db6 bazar-wokzal offers a draw
6.Sc3 Lxc3 7.Lxc6 Lg7 8.La4 Sf6 9.e5 Sd5 10.Lb3 Sc7 11.d4 cxd4 12.Sxd4 0-0
13.Le3 Da5 14.Sf3 Se6 15.Dd5 Dxd5 16.Lxd5 d6 17.exd6 exd6 18.c3 Sc7 19.Lb3 Le6
20.Tad1 Tfd8 21.Lf4 Lxb3 22.axb3 Lf8 Arbiter Decision (Adjudicated by
Martin_Fischer, Both players have unacceptable lags. Please leave and log in for
a new try.) 1/2-1/2
(462) SerS (2632) - E-Shaposhnikov (2798)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (11), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c5 2.Sf3 e6 3.d3 d5 4.De2 g6 5.g3 Lg7 6.Lg2 Sf6 7.0-0 Sc6 8.c3 0-0 9.Te1
Sd7 10.Lf4 d4 11.e5 h6 12.h4 Sb6 13.c4 Sd7 14.Sbd2 Kh7 15.Sf1 De7 16.S1h2 Tb8
17.Sg4 Te8 18.a3 Df8 19.Tab1 a5 20.b3 Ta8 21.De4 Se7 22.b4 axb4 23.axb4 Sf5
24.h5 gxh5 25.Sf6+ Lxf6 26.exf6 Sxf6 27.De2 cxb4 28.Le5 Sd7 29.Sd2 Sxe5 30.Dxe5
Dg7 31.De4 Ta2 32.Sf3 Tg8 33.Tf1 Kh8 34.Txb4 Sxg3 35.fxg3 Txg2+ 36.Kh1 Txg3
37.Tb2 Th3+ 38.Sh2 f5 39.De2 Ld7 40.Tb6 Tg3 SerS resigns 0-1
(462) SerS (2632) - E-Shaposhnikov (2798)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (11), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c5 2.Sf3 e6 3.d3 d5 4.De2 g6 5.g3 Lg7 6.Lg2 Sf6 7.0-0 Sc6 8.c3 0-0 9.Te1
Sd7 10.Lf4 d4 11.e5 h6 12.h4 Sb6 13.c4 Sd7 14.Sbd2 Kh7 15.Sf1 De7 16.S1h2 Tb8
17.Sg4 Te8 18.a3 Df8 19.Tab1 a5 20.b3 Ta8 21.De4 Se7 22.b4 axb4 23.axb4 Sf5
24.h5 gxh5 25.Sf6+ Lxf6 26.exf6 Sxf6 27.De2 cxb4 28.Le5 Sd7 29.Sd2 Sxe5 30.Dxe5
Dg7 31.De4 Ta2 32.Sf3 Tg8 33.Tf1 Kh8 34.Txb4 Sxg3 35.fxg3 Txg2+ 36.Kh1 Txg3
37.Tb2 Th3+ 38.Sh2 f5 39.De2 Ld7 40.Tb6 Tg3 SerS resigns 0-1
(514) Abrau (2723) - E-Shaposhnikov (2808)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (12), 08.11.2003
1.e4 c5 2.Sc3 e6 3.Sge2 a6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Sxd4 b5 6.Ld3 Lb7 7.Sb3 b4 8.Sb1 Sf6
9.De2 Sc6 10.0-0 Se5 11.Lf4 d6 12.S1d2 Le7 13.Lg3 0-0 14.f4 Sxd3 15.cxd3 a5
16.Sd4 a4 17.Kh1 Sd7 18.f5 e5 19.S4f3 Lf6 20.Tac1 Te8 21.Sc4 De7 22.Sfd2 d5
23.exd5 Lxd5 24.Se4 Lg5 25.Tce1 Ta6 26.Sxg5 Dxg5 27.d4 Th6 28.Kg1 Tc6 29.Sxe5
Sxe5 30.dxe5 b3 31.axb3 axb3 32.Db5 Td8 33.f6 Tc2 34.Te2 Le6 35.Lf4 Dg6 36.Td2
Tcxd2 37.Lxd2 Dc2 38.Lc3 Ld5 39.Tf2 Dd1+ 40.Tf1 Dg4 41.Tf2 Lxg2 42.Txg2 Td1+
43.Kf2 Df4+ 44.Ke2 Df1+ 45.Ke3 Dxb5 46.Txg7+ Kf8 47.e6 Td3+ 48.Ke2 Txc3+ Abrau
resigns 0-1
(528) E-Shaposhnikov (2822) - Sergey (2679)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (13), 08.11.2003
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Sc3 Sf6 4.e5 Sfd7 5.f4 c5 6.Sf3 Sc6 7.Le3 a6 8.Dd2 b5 9.Ld3
Lb7 10.0-0 c4 11.Le2 b4 Sergey offers a draw 1/2-1/2
609) Timart (2704) - E-Shaposhnikov (2803)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR playchess.com (15), 08.11.2003
1.e4 E-Shaposhnikov offers a draw
1...c5 2.Sf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Sxd4 a6 5.Ld3 Sf6 Timart offers a draw 1/2-1/2
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