Author: Rex
Date: 16:24:03 11/10/03
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WOW what a huge complement for todays chess programs. This does blow away the
idea of chess programs not playing like humans. Amazing. If he didn't cheat
this is even more reason to say todays programs do play like a human. Finding a
program making the same if not all of the moves that of a GM. If he did cheat
it says the GM is not afraid of getting cought because the program plays just
like a human. Either way you cant argue it. Nice gains by the chess authors.
Good job guys...
On November 10, 2003 at 15:00:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>According to Chessbase GM Shaposhnikov has been disqualified from the first
>European Internet championships qualifier because he supposedly used a computer
>program.
>
>I just looked at some of his games.
>He indeed played many moves suggested also by Fritz 8 after a few seconds.
>
>There is some evidence. Is it enough to disqualify a GM?
>I wonder whether they had more.
>
>[D]4rr1k/1bq1n2p/pp1ppbp1/8/2P1PPQ1/1P2B2P/P3N2K/1BR3R1 b - - 0 30
>
>In this position Shaposhnikov played 30...Nf5 in 3 seconds.
>
>[D] 4rr1k/1bq1n2p/pp1ppbp1/8/2P1PPQ1/1P2B2P/P3N2K/1BR3R1 b - - 0 30
>
>Here 21.f4 in 8 seconds.
>
>In the game against Chessbase member Rainer Knaak he played quite a few Fritz
>moves in a row...
>
>[Event "EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR"]
>[Site "playchess.com"]
>[Date "2003.11.08"]
>[Round "11"]
>[White "SerS"]
>[Black "E-Shaposhnikov"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[WhiteElo "2632"]
>[BlackElo "2798"]
>[PlyCount "80"]
>[EventDate "2003.11.08"]
>
>1. e4 {2} c5 {1} 2. Nf3 {1} e6 {1} 3. d3 {1} d5 {2} 4. Qe2 {2} g6 {3} 5. g3 {2}
>Bg7 {1} 6. Bg2 {1} Nf6 {1} 7. O-O {8} Nc6 {1} 8. c3 {12} O-O {5} 9. Re1 {10}
>Nd7 {1} 10. Bf4 {11} d4 {6} 11. e5 {6} h6 {7} 12. h4 {3} Nb6 {16} 13. c4 {3}
>Nd7 {7} 14. Nbd2 {2} Kh7 {8} 15. Nf1 {5} Qe7 {8} 16. N1h2 {2} Rb8 {9} 17. Ng4 {
>5} Re8 {5} 18. a3 {11} Qf8 {7} 19. Rab1 {6} a5 {3} 20. b3 {6} Ra8 {2} 21. Qe4 {
>6} Ne7 {16} 22. b4 {6} axb4 {2} 23. axb4 {2} Nf5 {4} 24. h5 {8} gxh5 {11} 25.
>Nf6+ {15} Bxf6 {9} 26. exf6 {1} Nxf6 {2} 27. Qe2 {9} cxb4 {9} 28. Be5 {7} Nd7 {
>5} 29. Nd2 {1} Nxe5 {9} 30. Qxe5 {1} Qg7 {1} 31. Qe4 {4} Ra2 {3} 32. Nf3 {5}
>Rg8 {3} 33. Rf1 {13} Kh8 {4} 34. Rxb4 {14} Nxg3 {9} 35. fxg3 {7} Rxg2+ {4} 36.
>Kh1 {6} Rxg3 {2} 37. Rb2 {8} Rh3+ {8} 38. Nh2 {6} f5 {4} 39. Qe2 {6} Bd7 {9}
>40. Rb6 {5} Rg3 {SerS resigns 6} 0-1
>
>and in this game he played some quite strong (computer?) moves in a complicated
>position.
>
>[Event "EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP - CANDIDATES TOUR"]
>[Site "playchess.com"]
>[Date "2003.11.08"]
>[Round "11"]
>[White "SerS"]
>[Black "E-Shaposhnikov"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[WhiteElo "2632"]
>[BlackElo "2798"]
>[PlyCount "80"]
>[EventDate "2003.11.08"]
>
>1. e4 {2} c5 {1} 2. Nf3 {1} e6 {1} 3. d3 {1} d5 {2} 4. Qe2 {2} g6 {3} 5. g3 {2}
>Bg7 {1} 6. Bg2 {1} Nf6 {1} 7. O-O {8} Nc6 {1} 8. c3 {12} O-O {5} 9. Re1 {10}
>Nd7 {1} 10. Bf4 {11} d4 {6} 11. e5 {6} h6 {7} 12. h4 {3} Nb6 {16} 13. c4 {3}
>Nd7 {7} 14. Nbd2 {2} Kh7 {8} 15. Nf1 {5} Qe7 {8} 16. N1h2 {2} Rb8 {9} 17. Ng4 {
>5} Re8 {5} 18. a3 {11} Qf8 {7} 19. Rab1 {6} a5 {3} 20. b3 {6} Ra8 {2} 21. Qe4 {
>6} Ne7 {16} 22. b4 {6} axb4 {2} 23. axb4 {2} Nf5 {4} 24. h5 {8} gxh5 {11} 25.
>Nf6+ {15} Bxf6 {9} 26. exf6 {1} Nxf6 {2} 27. Qe2 {9} cxb4 {9} 28. Be5 {7} Nd7 {
>5} 29. Nd2 {1} Nxe5 {9} 30. Qxe5 {1} Qg7 {1} 31. Qe4 {4} Ra2 {3} 32. Nf3 {5}
>Rg8 {3} 33. Rf1 {13} Kh8 {4} 34. Rxb4 {14} Nxg3 {9} 35. fxg3 {7} Rxg2+ {4} 36.
>Kh1 {6} Rxg3 {2} 37. Rb2 {8} Rh3+ {8} 38. Nh2 {6} f5 {4} 39. Qe2 {6} Bd7 {9}
>40. Rb6 {5} Rg3 {SerS resigns 6} 0-1
>
>Michael
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