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Subject: Re: Are we all under estimating X3d Fritz??

Author: Dan Sicerly

Date: 01:13:12 11/12/03

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On November 12, 2003 at 03:59:42, Harald Faber wrote:

>On November 12, 2003 at 03:21:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2003 at 03:16:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 2003 at 02:11:04, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm reading through all these posts and watched the games, and something
>>>>occurred to me, especially what the CEO of chessbase said, that kasparov was
>>>>sent the versions of x3d fritz as they were created...so...
>>>>
>>>>If chessbase were able to clone kasparov use him, study him, poke holes in his
>>>>game, analyse him for hundreds of hours, how well would they do?
>>>>
>>>>But thats a question we'll never be able to answer, but how about this ,
>>>>
>>>>If they sent x3d version fritz with the same hardware to a large super
>>>>grandmaster tournament, a round robin, where all the players not only had to
>>>>prepare for the computer, but other humans, how would it fair?
>>>>
>>>>I think we are seriously under estimating this beast...
>>>>just my opinion of course.
>>>>-Derek
>>>
>>>This is exactly what chessbase want you to believe.
>>>
>>>I think that all these matches are unimportant matches and it may be better if
>>>we ignore them.
>>>
>>>I do not trust the humans in these match to try to win the matches and I suspect
>>>that they believe that draw can give them more money.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I can add that the fact that kasparov got another match after drawing with Fritz
>>when Smirin never got another match after beating the machines increase my
>>impression(hardware was slower against smirin but time control was also faster
>>and the second factor is something that is supposed to help the machines so I
>>think that smirin's result is better than kasparov's result and kramnik's
>>result).
>>
>>Players may believe that it is better if they do not win because if they draw
>>they have better chances to get another match.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>What I always say. Let the programs play regular matches and tournaments and you
>will see FMs, IMs and GMs adjust their play vs. computers and win.


  You are not as bright as i thought you were to make such a Rediculous
Statement, surely you realize that most if not all professional players
regulary, play and analyze with fritz, there simply is no adjustment that can be
made where a FM can defeat fritz in a match, if there was the greatest player in
the history of the game would be imploying this strategy now.



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