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Subject: Re: X3D Fritz with the inferior hardware is much better than Deeper Blue

Author: Dan Sicerly

Date: 01:37:05 11/12/03

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On November 12, 2003 at 04:27:03, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 12, 2003 at 03:56:09, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2003 at 03:21:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 2003 at 03:16:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 12, 2003 at 02:11:04, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm reading through all these posts and watched the games, and something
>>>>>occurred to me, especially what the CEO of chessbase said, that kasparov was
>>>>>sent the versions of x3d fritz as they were created...so...
>>>>>
>>>>>If chessbase were able to clone kasparov use him, study him, poke holes in his
>>>>>game, analyse him for hundreds of hours, how well would they do?
>>>>>
>>>>>But thats a question we'll never be able to answer, but how about this ,
>>>>>
>>>>>If they sent x3d version fritz with the same hardware to a large super
>>>>>grandmaster tournament, a round robin, where all the players not only had to
>>>>>prepare for the computer, but other humans, how would it fair?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think we are seriously under estimating this beast...
>>>>>just my opinion of course.
>>>>>-Derek
>>>>
>>>>This is exactly what chessbase want you to believe.
>>>>
>>>>I think that all these matches are unimportant matches and it may be better if
>>>>we ignore them.
>>>>
>>>>I do not trust the humans in these match to try to win the matches and I suspect
>>>>that they believe that draw can give them more money.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I can add that the fact that kasparov got another match after drawing with Fritz
>>>when Smirin never got another match after beating the machines increase my
>>>impression(hardware was slower against smirin but time control was also faster
>>>and the second factor is something that is supposed to help the machines so I
>>>think that smirin's result is better than kasparov's result and kramnik's
>>>result).
>>>
>>>Players may believe that it is better if they do not win because if they draw
>>>they have better chances to get another match.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>Kasparov lost to IBM Deeper Blue and still has not gotten a rematch, and I
>>believe that X3D Fritz with the inferior hardware is much better than Deeper
>>Blue :-)
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Yes but I am talking about chessbase and not about IBM.
>Chessbase did not give another match to smirin.
>
>Uri


 Something wrong with your logic, Chessbase didn't give another match to Bareev
who Drew with Hiarcs, so how did not winning help bareev?? Your making some huge
assumptions with Zero Evidence to back you up, only sopposition. The funny thing
is that you make these assumptions as if they are Facts.



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