Author: Harald Faber
Date: 04:34:57 11/12/03
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On November 12, 2003 at 04:13:12, Dan Sicerly wrote: >On November 12, 2003 at 03:59:42, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On November 12, 2003 at 03:21:46, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 2003 at 03:16:44, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On November 12, 2003 at 02:11:04, Derek Paquette wrote: >>>> >>>>>I'm reading through all these posts and watched the games, and something >>>>>occurred to me, especially what the CEO of chessbase said, that kasparov was >>>>>sent the versions of x3d fritz as they were created...so... >>>>> >>>>>If chessbase were able to clone kasparov use him, study him, poke holes in his >>>>>game, analyse him for hundreds of hours, how well would they do? >>>>> >>>>>But thats a question we'll never be able to answer, but how about this , >>>>> >>>>>If they sent x3d version fritz with the same hardware to a large super >>>>>grandmaster tournament, a round robin, where all the players not only had to >>>>>prepare for the computer, but other humans, how would it fair? >>>>> >>>>>I think we are seriously under estimating this beast... >>>>>just my opinion of course. >>>>>-Derek >>>> >>>>This is exactly what chessbase want you to believe. >>>> >>>>I think that all these matches are unimportant matches and it may be better if >>>>we ignore them. >>>> >>>>I do not trust the humans in these match to try to win the matches and I suspect >>>>that they believe that draw can give them more money. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I can add that the fact that kasparov got another match after drawing with Fritz >>>when Smirin never got another match after beating the machines increase my >>>impression(hardware was slower against smirin but time control was also faster >>>and the second factor is something that is supposed to help the machines so I >>>think that smirin's result is better than kasparov's result and kramnik's >>>result). >>> >>>Players may believe that it is better if they do not win because if they draw >>>they have better chances to get another match. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>What I always say. Let the programs play regular matches and tournaments and you >>will see FMs, IMs and GMs adjust their play vs. computers and win. > > > You are not as bright as i thought you were to make such a Rediculous >Statement Please leave out personal issues, they are not really helpful but only provoke. >surely you realize that most if not all professional players >regulary, play and analyze with fritz I don't think they play vs. them. Why should they? >there simply is no adjustment that can be >made where a FM can defeat fritz in a match, if there was the greatest player in >the history of the game would be imploying this strategy now. Your opinion, mine is different. Both are speculations right now. Here's another one: Fischer would kick ass the programs. :-)
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