Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 17:17:03 11/12/03
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On November 12, 2003 at 19:17:22, David Dahlem wrote: >On November 12, 2003 at 19:01:16, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On November 12, 2003 at 18:42:36, David Dahlem wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 2003 at 17:28:01, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On November 12, 2003 at 17:00:20, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 12, 2003 at 16:42:52, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 12, 2003 at 16:33:52, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 12, 2003 at 11:23:08, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Ed, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>your update is not WB compatible. >>>>>>>I delete the games from Rebel 12.000 because I would be restart all tournament >>>>>>>games with your newer Rebel version. Now I saw that your update is not >>>>>>>compatible to WinBoard. >>>>>> >>>>>>I wouldn't know, never tested the new Rebel under Arena. But why not use the >>>>>>wb2uci emulator? >>>>>> >>>>>>My best, >>>>>> >>>>>>Ed >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Ed, >>>>> >>>>>Arena don't need any adapter / converter! >>>> >>>>Fine, for Rebel you apparently need it, what's the problem? >>>> >>>>I never claimed Arena compatabilty, be glad it works. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I can only see the Rebel12.exe and this version don't work as WB engine! >>>>> >>>>>I used from your Rebel12 CD-Rom the Rebel12_CB.exe and this version of Rebel >>>>>works fine under Arena. But the Rebel12_CB.exe is not in your update !! >>>> >>>>Why all this yelling, is there a need for that? >>>> >>>>No, there isn't because it can't be supported any longer. The current Rebel >>>>(under other infterfaces) runs fine when using the wb2uci adaptor, learn to live >>>>with it. >>>> >>>>But you can keep using the old Rebel12_CB.exe with the new settings (rebel.eng) >>>>when the issue is strength only as the bugs that were fixed where related to the >>>>Chesspartner interface. >>>> >>>>My best, >>>> >>>>Ed >> >> >>>So this statement from the update page: >>> >>>"Besides some minor bug-fixes this version comes with a stronger chess engine, >>>especially on short time controls its elo rating has increased a lot." >>> >>>And this statement: >>> >>>"The Rebel 12 engine: >>>- Fixed some small bugs. - Playing strength increased." >>> >>>refers to the Rebel.eng file and not to Rebel12.exe? Is my interpretation >>>correct? >> >>What's on the update page is related to ChessPartner only, remember this is the >>home interface of Rebel, my first priority and it fixes some ChessPartner >>related bugs. >> >>However if the new Rebel12.exe doesn't run under other interfaces while the old >>Rebel12_CB does then just keep the old one as these bugs are non-issues running >>Rebel 12 under (all the) other Interfaces. But to enjoy its increased strength >>you need the (new) Rebel.eng as listed below. >> >>Hope this clarifies this issue. >> >>My best, >> >>Ed >> > >Thanks Ed > >It's still not entirely clear to me. I am only concerned with the strength >increase issue. Maybe if i word it differently, it will be easier to understand >my question. Is there any strength increase in Rebel12.exe? Or is the strength >increase because of new settings in the Rebel.eng personality file? > >Regards >Dave I interpreted Ed's remarks that the stength is related to the Rebel.eng file. Addtional speedup (3-4%) in the CP GUI is possible with turning off the engine window updates. This speedup is N/A to other GUI since this information is not reported to GUI. There might be some other changes in the *.exe - but they may be non events for other than CP GUI users. For example book learning might be improved in CP GUI - that is N/A for Fritz GUI. In other words, the updated is mostly related to improving Rebel under CP GUI and with the new rebel,eng parameters below - available for any GUI. Ed is that correct? > >>================================ >> >>[Personality = REBEL.ENG] * Rebel 12 (November 2003) >>[Pawn Value = 100] >>[Knight Value = 100] >>[Bishop Value = 100] >>[Rook Value = 100] >>[Queen Value = 100] >>[King Safety = 150] >>[Mobility = 100] >>[Pawn Structure = 100] >>[Passed Pawns = 100] >>[Pins = 100] >>[Bishop Pair = 100] >>[Chess Knowledge = 100] >>[Attractiveness = 101] >>[Attacking = 100] >>[Strength of Play = 100] >>[Draw Contempt Factor = 0.00] >>[Selective Search = 100] >>[Search Technique = NULLMOVE] >>[Engine Learner = off] * off|on >>[Book Learner = aggressive] * off|passive|moderate|strong|aggressive >>[Position Learner = on] * off|on >>[Extended Book Learner = off] * off|read|write|read&write >>[Pruning = MISC_25] * >>[Pruning = MISC_37] * >>[Pruning = MISC_40] * >>[Center Control = 25] * 25 >>[Bishop Mobility = 25] * 25 >>[Right to Move = 75] * 75 >>[Strong Squares = 125] * 125 >>[ANTI-GM = OFF] >>[EVALUATION = SMART] * NORMAL|SMART >>[Extensions (remaining)= 3] >>[Extensions (checks)= 0] >>[Extensions (captures)= 0]
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