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Subject: Re: Endgame

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:43:38 11/13/03

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On November 13, 2003 at 11:07:09, Daniel Clausen wrote:

>On November 13, 2003 at 10:38:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>Imagine a position where white can exchange rooks and reach the famous FINE-70
>>>position. With HTs it's quickly possible to see the win. I'd like me engine to
>>>see the win before the exchange though, not afterwards. (since then, I maybe
>>>never reach the position in the first place)
>>>
>>>Yeah, I know these are just words. I mean, at least John tried something _for
>>>real_ and it worked. :) But maybe one day... :)
>>>
>>>Sargon
>>
>>
>>This just opens a huge can of worms that has been discussed thousands of
>>times in the past.  Here is the question:
>>
>>"what makes it reasonable to search one root move deeper than another?"
>
>Not sure why you're talking about root-moves specifically here. My suggestion is
>meant for everywhere in the tree. (which I'm sure will explode like hell, but
>hey, lemme try it out too! =)

I think John proposed and tested this as a fix for searching root moves
only...


>
>
>>sub-questions include "if you search two moves to different depths, how can
>>you possibly compare the scores?"  Answer:  "you can't."  Of course, if you
>>search two moves to different depths and the deeper search proves a win,
>>then you can safely take that even if the other move also wins quicker if you
>>search it to the same depth.  But if it isn't winning, then comparing the two
>>scores is _very_ risky.
>
>Well, since we do that (compare scores of adjacent nodes with different depths)
>all the time, why should this be a killer for the idea above but not for all
>extensions? Sounds unfair to me! =)
>
>Sargon



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