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Subject: Re: Kasparov simply did not deserve to be playing again..

Author: allan johnson

Date: 22:56:17 11/13/03

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On November 13, 2003 at 23:34:47, Timmay wrote:

>On November 13, 2003 at 22:18:00, steven blincoe wrote:
>
>>
>>What a noble purpose! It seems to me that in itself earns him the right
>>>to sit in that chair aside from his obvious gift for the game.
>>
>>
>>whatever Kasparov has done for chess has nothing to do with nobility
>>it has to do with money..his money
>>whatever he could make for himself regardless of the consequences
>>not that that there is anything wrong with making money from his ability but
>>noble?
>>
>>was taking back the knight move against Judit ..noble?
>>the entire Grandmaster's  association fiasco ..noble?
>>his getting  back into bed with the the president of Fide(a murderer)noble?
>>his berating of the brilliany prize judges (after awarding the brilliancy prize
>>to a game he lost)noble?
>>his accusing the Deep Blue team of cheating(a view he still holds to this
>>day)..noble??
>>his demanding to start a game over during a recent simul (because the player was
>>rated higher then the maximum rating for the simul participants)..noble?
>>
>>i can go on and on...
>>
>>i dont even think Kasparov himself would consider himself to be a noble person
>
>Neither of us were there when the event with Garry and Judit happened. However,
>Judit's stated many times that everyone over-reacted with what actually
>happened. Anyhow, I'm sure Judit can fend for herself.
>
>The GMA was too a noble intention. Though the result indicated maybe it was too
>big of a responsibility to take on at that time, he did it to retain the
>positive history of classical chess (he already was a multi-millionaire, money
>wouldn't be a primary motivator). He's led the initiative to help other
>grandmasters as well.
>
>Hmmm....getting in bed with president Kirsan. I'm not "quite" sure if that's an
>accurate portrayal of the current events.....grin. What I see is that Garry is
>upholding the contract he signed in good faith in the Prague Unity Agreements!
>Was Garry "in bed" with Kirsan when he cancelled the match with Ponomariov? He
>was quite peeved after that, but forged ahead without a big complaint for the
>greater good of the reunification.
>
>In Linares 2003, he DID go overboard. He completely over-reacted, I concur,
>you're right. But you and I both know he had a good point. There was nothing
>brilliant about that game. Radjabov was an inferior position the whole game
>until the last 2-5 moves where Kasparov blundered. All it was, was the
>"infallible" Kasparov being beat by an up-and-coming star. Anyhow, he publically
>apologized after that event. He's human after all.
>
>As far as starting over the game, it was clearly stated that those were the
>rules ahead of time (2000+). It was noble of Kasparov to continue to play him as
>opposed to have him kicked out by the tournament organizers for a clear
>violation of the rules. (I'm not picking on him, because it was the organizers
>fault actually, but my point is it was a violation of the rules which were known
>ahead of time at the end of the day, and Kasparov didn't object to play him
>still).
>
>As far as money is concerned, you can't hound him for being successful. He has
>an amazing work ethic, and is a shrewd businessman on the side of being a
>fantastic chess player. He's made himself successful by working hard. I
>personally think he's given more to chess then he's received. That's just my
>personal opinion on how he's affected me.
>
>"I don't even think Kasparov would consider himself a noble person." Come on
>now, you know that's a huge assumption based on nothing.
Depends on what you mean by noble I guess.In a very loose sense the cap might
fit but I would probably use the adjectives,talented, creative,selfish ambitious
rather than noble to describe Kasparov.
Al



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