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Subject: Re: Good point!

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 09:02:04 11/14/03

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On November 14, 2003 at 10:34:52, martin fierz wrote:

>On November 14, 2003 at 08:28:42, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2003 at 05:08:17, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2003 at 04:31:21, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2003 at 02:20:35, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If the 3D glasses are bothering him that much, all he has to do is close his
>>>>>eyes and play blindfold. If he wants, every once in awhile he can take a peak as
>>>>>needed. It's not that big a deal for a player at his level to play blindfold.
>>>>>
>>>>>I see no reason to be making excuses for GK. He managed his time poorly and paid
>>>>>the just price.
>>>>>
>>>>>Next game!
>>>>
>>>>I agree deeply with you, since the board is also clearly visualized internally
>>>>at those mastery levels, so the 3d external representation is quite unimportant.
>>>>
>>>>w.b.r.
>>>>Otello
>>>
>>>just look at those amber blindfold/rapid tournaments, compare the level in
>>>blindfold and non-blindfold chess and then reconsider your statement...
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>  martin
>>
>>What I meant is that a major part of the chess game is alwas played "blindfold"
>>by grandmasters, so the real pieces and chessboard is a mere mnemonic auxilium
>>at those levels of mastery.
>>
>>w.b.r.
>>Otello
>
>if that is so, then why do they play so much better with the board? your theory
>isn't too convincing...
>
>cheers
>  martin

It's not exactly "mine" theory :)

That's from Dr. Tarrasch , cited by Binet in the book "Mnemonic Virtuosity" :

(...)
"One part of a game is played as if "blindfold" (please note the "" ..my note).
E.g. any combination of five moves is executed mentally: the only difference is
that you are sit in front of the board, but often the board view disturbs the
players calculation"
(...)

This witness from Dr Tarrasch is a proof that the game is represented at a
relatively abstract level , where the pieces identities, to not talk about their
phisycal attributes, are not relevant at all. What counts is only the power of
each piece and its moving properties.

w.b.r.
Otello





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