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Subject: Re: Kasparov,G vs Fritz X3D (3) 1-0 PGN and live comments

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:00:40 11/16/03

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On November 16, 2003 at 17:44:49, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>[Event "Man vs Machine 120'/40"]
>[Site "New York"]
>[Date "2003.11.16"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Kasparov, Gary"]
>[Black "Fritz X3D"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D45"]
>[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
>[PlyCount "87"]
>
>1. Nf3 {Live comments / Live Kommentare: Utzinger,K} 1... Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3
>d5 4. d4 c6 5. e3 a6 6. c5 Nbd7 7. b4 a5 8. b5 e5 9. Qa4 Qc7 10. Ba3 e4 11. Nd2
>Be7 12. b6 Qd8 13. h3 O-O 14. Nb3 Bd6 {A most surpri sing anti-human-like move.
>Fritz wants to place its knight to b8. White can't play 15.Nxa5? on account of
>Nxb6 winning Kasparov's queen / Ein ueberraschender Zug. Fritz will den
>Laeufer nach b8 stellen. Weiss darf nicht 15.Sxa5 spielen wegen Damenverlust
>nach Sxb6} 15. Rb1 {By protecting the b6-pawn Kasparov can now play Nxa5 /
>Durch die Deckung des b6-Bauern kann nun Kasparov Sxa5 spielen} 15... Be7 {
>Fritz has changed its mind. This all does not look very logical / Fritz hat
>seine Meinung geaendert, was nicht geradevonLogikzeugt} 16. Nxa5 {Should Gary
>Kasparov not win this game he will most probably never again play such
>computer events / Sollte Gary Kasparov diese Partie nicht gewinnen, wird er
>vermutlich nie mehr an solchen Veranstaltungen gegen Computer teilnehmen} 16...
>Nb8 {Now X3D Fritz moves its knight backwards to its original square on b8.
>This is the sort of thing chess programmers have nightmares about (Greengard,M)
>I suppose that Fritz will soon play Qd7 in order to bring its queen to white's
>kingside / Nun huepft X3D Fritz mit seinem Springer auf das Ursprungsfeld b8
>zurueck. Solche Dinge kommen in den Alptraeumen der Programmierer vor
>(Greengard,M) Ich vermute, dass Fritz bald Dd7 spielen wird, mit der Idee die
>Dame nach f5 in die Naehe des gegnerischen Koenigsfluegels zu bringen} 17. Bb4
>Qd7 18. Rb2 Qe6 {This game can last long as white's pieces are rather unlucky
>placed on the queenside and if black finds the maneouvre Nf6-e8, followed by
>Qg6 and f7-f5-f4 he gets surely some counterchances / Diese Partie kann noch
>lange dauern. Die weissen Figuren stehen am Damenfluegel schlecht. Und falls
>Schwarz das Manoever Sf6-e8 und Dg6 sowie f7-f5-f4 findet, bekommt er sicher
>gewisse Gegenchancen} 19. Qd1 Nfd7 {I am almost sure that Fritz will
>eventually find f7-f5 / Nun bin ich fast sicher, dass Fritz den Vorstoss f7-f5
>finden wird} 20. a3 Qh6 {At first glance this looks strange but in my opinion
>it's a good move taking the squares h3 and e3 under fire. And do we not forget:
>white has a real bad bishop on the queenside whereas almost all black's pieces
>are looking at white's kingside. Gary Kasparov will have to be very cautious
>in defending there / Auf den ersten Blick ein komischer Zug, doch finde ich
>ihn gut, werden doch die Felder h3 und e3 unter Druck genommen. Und vergessen
>wir nicht: Weiss hat am Damenfluegel einen miserablen Laeufer, waehrend die
>schwarzen Figuren alle gegen den weissen Koenigsfluegel gerichtet sind. Gary
>Kasparov wird sich gut verteidigen muessen} 21. Nb3 Bh4 {
>Threatening Qxe3 / Droht bereits Dxe3} 22. Qd2 Nf6 23. Kd1 {Gary Kasparov is
>excaping with its king to the other side of the board. Perhaps not a bad idea
>I had not thought about before. I am however not sure if the king finds a real
>safe place on the queenside. On the other hand: Kasparov should better know /
>Gary Kasparov entschluepft an den anderen Fluegel. Vielleicht keine schlechte
>Idee, die ich nicht beachtet habe. Allerdings bin ich nicht sicher, ob der
>Koenig am Damenfluegel einen wirklich sicheren Platz findet. Doch sollte
>Kasparov das besser wissen als meine Wenigkeit} 23... Be6 24. Kc1 Rd8 25. Rc2
>Nbd7 26. Kb2 ({Shredder 7.04:} 26. Kb2 Qg6 27. g3 Bg5 28. Na5 Rdb8 29. h4 Bh6
>30. Ne2 Qg4 31. Nf4 Rxa5 {-0.11/13}) 26... Nf8 27. a4 {And after a4-a5 white's
>king is completely safe on the queenside. But to win the game is still not so
>easy for Kasparov. The most important plan will be to break through with its
>pawns / Und nach a4-a5 steht der weisse Koenig am Damenfluegel total sicher.
>Trotzdem wird es nicht einfach sein fuer Weiss, die Partie zu gewinnen. Der
>wichtigste Plan duerfte darin bestehen, mit seinen Bauern durchzubrechen} 27...
>Ng6 28. a5 Ne7 29. a6 {This comes as a surprise to me as I thought this would
>be too early / Ueberraschend fuer mich, hatte ich doch gedacht, dass dies zu
>frueh sei} 29... bxa6 {What else? / Was sonst?} 30. Na5 Rdb8 31. g3 Bg5 32. Bg2
>{Planning h3-h4 and winning a piece. Now Kasparov has a very fine position /
>Plant h3-h4 mit Figurengewinn. Nun hat Kasparov eine sehr gute Stellung} 32...
>Qg6 33. Ka1 Kh8 34. Na2 Bd7 35. Bc3 {Fritz8 still thinks it has the advantage /
>Noch immer glaubt Fritz8, dass er Vorteil hat} 35... Ne8 36. Nb4 {And here Frit
>z X3D showed a positive evaluation for white / Und hier zeigte Fritz X3D ein
>positives Score fuer Weiss an} 36... Kg8 37. Rb1 Bc8 38. Ra2 Bh6 {
>Black is absolutely helpless / Schwarz ist absolut hilflos} 39. Bf1 {For a long
>time this game has just been one player playing and the other player waiting.
>Fritz X3D has just been a spectator (GM Lautier,J)} 39... Qe6 40. Qd1 Nf6 41.
>Qa4 {The pressure on black's camp continues / Der Druck gegen die schwarze
>Stellung steigt} 41... Bb7 {
>There was nothing else to protect c6 / Es gab nichts Anderes, um c6 zu decken}
>42. Nxb7 Rxb7 43. Nxa6 {Kasparov is again a pawn up with still a strong
>position / Kasparov hat wieder ein Bauernplus bei noch immer starker Stellung}
>43... Qd7 44. Rb3 {The experts expected rather 44.Qd1. Fritz X3D resigned /
>Die Experten hatten eher 44.Dd1 erwartet. Nun gab Fritz X3D auf.} 1-0

Why did it resign?
My stupid Fritz evaluates the position as better for black in the first
iterations.

It is even more stupid than a bean counter because a bean counter at least
evaluates it as one pawn for white.

I was surprised to find out that the same is also for some other top programs.

Quark was the only smart program that I tried(Movei also understand that white
is better but I decided that movei is too weak to post analysis of it).

Quark can see advantage for white from the first iteration

Kasparov,G - Fritz X3D
r5k1/1r1qnppp/NPp2n1b/2Pp4/Q2Pp3/1RB1P1PP/R4P2/K4B2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

44...Rxa6 45.Bxa6 Qxh3
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
44...Rxa6 45.Bxa6 Qxh3
  +-  (2.78)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Rxa6 45.Bxa6 Qxh3
  +-  (2.67)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Bg5
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Bg5
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Bg5
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Bg5 45.Rba3
  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
44...Bg5 45.h4 Bh6
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Ba5 Kf8
  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.g4 Qf3
  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Bg5
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Bg5
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Bg5 46.Bg2
  µ  (-0.82)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Qe6 46.h4 Qf5
  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Rba3 Bxe3 46.fxe3 Qxf1+ 47.Qd1
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Bg5 46.h4 Qf3 47.Bxf3
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Bg5 46.h4 Bh6 47.Rba3
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  15kN
44...Qc8 45.Qxc6 Nxc6 46.g4
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  17kN
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Qf5 46.g4 Qf3 47.Kb1
  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  21kN
44...Qc8 45.Rba3 Nf5 46.Bg2 Bg5 47.h4 Qc7 48.Nxc7
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  46kN
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 g6 46.g4 Qe6 47.Rba3 Bg5
  ³  (-0.33)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  52kN
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Nd7 46.Rba3 Bg5 47.h4 Bf6
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  61kN
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Nd7 46.Rba3 Bg5 47.h4 Bf6 48.Kb1
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:01  128kN
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Nd7 46.Rba3 Bg5 47.h4 Bf6 48.Qc2 Nf8
  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:01  251kN
44...Qf5 45.Bg2 Qc8 46.Rba3 Qe6 47.h4 g6 48.Kb1 Qf5 49.Kc1
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:05  802kN
44...Bg5 45.h4 Bh6 46.Bg2
  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:06  1097kN
44...Bg5 45.h4 Bh6 46.Bg2 Qc8 47.Rba3 Bxe3 48.fxe3 Qc7 49.Nxc7
  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:07  1140kN
44...Bg5 45.h4 Bh6 46.Ba5 Ne8 47.Nb4 Qe6 48.Ba6 Rbb8 49.Kb1 Nf6 50.Rba3
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:10  1829kN
44...Bg5 45.h4 Bh6 46.Ba5 Ne8 47.Nb4 Rbb8 48.Na6 Rb7 49.Nb4 Rbb8 50.Na6 Rb7
51.Nb4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:22  3924kN

(, eim 17.11.2003)

Kasparov,G - Fritz X3D
r5k1/1r1qnppp/NPp2n1b/2Pp4/Q2Pp3/1RB1P1PP/R4P2/K4B2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Ruffian 1.0.1:

44...g6
  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
44...Nf5
  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
44...Bg5
  µ  (-1.25)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
44...Qe6
  -+  (-1.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
44...Qf5
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.f4
  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Qa5 Bg5
  -+  (-1.41)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.g4 Qf3 46.g5
  µ  (-1.35)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Rb1 Bg5 46.Bg2 Qe6
  µ  (-1.36)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
44...Qf5 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.g4 Qe6 47.Nc7
  µ  (-1.00)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  37kN
44...Qc8 45.Rb1 Qf5 46.Qd1 Bg5 47.Nc7
  µ  (-1.02)   Depth: 6/13   00:00:00  100kN
44...Qc8 45.Rb1 Qf8 46.Be2 Bg5 47.Qc2 Nf5
  µ  (-1.01)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  173kN
44...g6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Rb1 Qf5 47.Nc7 Nxc7 48.bxc7
  µ  (-1.09)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  237kN
44...g6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Kb2 Bg7 47.Ka3 Nf6 48.Nc7
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:01  469kN
44...Qc8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Kb2 Qd7 47.Ka3 Nf6 48.Nc7
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:01  658kN
44...Qf5 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Qe6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.Rba3
  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:01  803kN
44...Qf5
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:03  1795kN
44...Qf5 45.Rb1 g5 46.Qd1 g4 47.hxg4 Nxg4 48.Bh3 Nxe3 49.Bxf5 Nxd1
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:04  2116kN
44...g6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Kb2 Bg7 47.Ka3 Qc8 48.Nc7 Nxc7 49.bxc7
  =  (-0.21)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:04  2255kN
44...Ne8 45.Rb1 Nf5 46.Kb2 Nc7 47.Ka3 Ne7 48.Rba1 Ne6
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:07  3433kN
44...Ne8 45.Rb1 Qf5 46.Qd1 Qf6 47.Nc7 Nxc7 48.bxc7 Rxa2+ 49.Kxa2 Qxf2+ 50.Qd2
Ra7+ 51.Kb3 Qxg3
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:08  4350kN
44...Ne8
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:15  7432kN
44...Ne8 45.Rb1 Nf6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:19  9864kN
44...g6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Kb2 Qf5 47.Ka3 Qf3 48.Rb1 Bxe3 49.fxe3 Qxe3+ 50.Qb3 Qxd4
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:22  11264kN

(, eim 17.11.2003)


Kasparov,G - Fritz X3D
r5k1/1r1qnppp/NPp2n1b/2Pp4/Q2Pp3/1RB1P1PP/R4P2/K4B2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

44...Qf5--
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  17kN
44...Qf5 45.Rb1 Qf3 46.Qc2
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  22kN
44...Kh8!
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  26kN
44...Kh8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Rba3 Qf5 47.Qc2 Nf6
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  33kN
44...Kh8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Rba3 Kg8 47.Qc2 Nf6 48.Bc3
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  58kN
44...Bg5!
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  115kN
44...Bg5 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Rba3 Qf5 47.Nb4 Qe6 48.Qd1
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  123kN
44...Bg5 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Qe6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.h4 Bh6
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:00  208kN
44...Kh8!
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:00  222kN
44...Kh8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Qe6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.g4 Nf6
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:00  238kN
44...Ne8!
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:01  332kN
44...Ne8 45.Ba5 Bg5 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Na6 Ne8
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:01  522kN
44...Ne8 45.Ba5 Bg5 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.b7 Ra7 49.Bb6 Rbxb7 50.h4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:03  1029kN
44...Ne8 45.Ba5 Bg5 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.b7 Ra7 49.Bb6 Rbxb7 50.h4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:05  2066kN
44...Ne8 45.Ba5 Qe6 46.Nb4 Rbb8 47.Na6 Rb7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/38   00:00:12  4712kN
44...Ne8 45.Ba5 Kh8 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.b7 Ra7
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 14/36   00:00:31  13364kN

(, eim 17.11.2003)

Kasparov,G - Fritz X3D
r5k1/1r1qnppp/NPp2n1b/2Pp4/Q2Pp3/1RB1P1PP/R4P2/K4B2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Gandalf 4.32h:

44...g6 45.Bg2
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 2   00:00:03
44...g6 45.Bg2 Bg7
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 3   00:00:03
44...g6 45.Bg2 Bg7 46.g4
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 4   00:00:03
44...Qe8
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 4   00:00:03
44...g6 45.Bg2 Bg7 46.g4 Qe6
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 5   00:00:03  6kN
44...g6 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Kb1 Nf5 47.h4
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 6   00:00:03  26kN
44...g6 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Kb1 Bg7 47.g4 Kh8
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 7   00:00:03  82kN
44...g6 45.Kb1 Kh8 46.Rbb2 Qe8 47.g4 Bg7 48.Qd1
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 8   00:00:05  400kN
44...g6 45.Kb1 Kh8 46.Rbb2 Qf5 47.Bg2 Qe6 48.Qc2 Nf5
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 9   00:00:09  950kN

(, eim 17.11.2003)


Kasparov,G - Fritz X3D
r5k1/1r1qnppp/NPp2n1b/2Pp4/Q2Pp3/1RB1P1PP/R4P2/K4B2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Quark:

44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qf5 46.Rb1
  +-  (1.43)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qf5 46.Rb1
  +-  (1.43)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5
  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 5   00:00:01
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5
  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 5   00:00:01
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5 47.Qc2
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  31kN
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5 47.Qc2
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  46kN
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5 47.Qc2 Bg5
  +-  (1.45)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  63kN
44...Qe6
  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  105kN
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5 47.Qc2 Bg5
  +-  (1.45)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  115kN
44...Kh8 45.Bg2 Qe6 46.Rb1 Nf5 47.Qc2 Bg5
  +-  (1.45)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  155kN
44...Kh8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.g4 Bxe3
  +-  (1.60)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  304kN
44...Qe6
  +-  (1.59)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  312kN
44...Qe6 45.Bg2 Kh8 46.Rb1
  +-  (1.53)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  349kN
44...Qe6 45.Bg2 Kh8 46.Rb1
  +-  (1.53)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  467kN
44...Qe6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.g4 Kh8
  +-  (1.54)   Depth: 9   00:00:05  883kN
44...Qe6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.g4 Kh8
  +-  (1.54)   Depth: 9   00:00:08  1787kN
44...Qe6 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Nf6 47.Ba6 Rbb8 48.g4 Kh8 49.Rb1
  +-  (1.68)   Depth: 10   00:00:10  2225kN
44...Kh8
  +-  (1.67)   Depth: 10   00:00:11  2626kN
44...Kh8 45.Ba5 Ne8 46.Nb4 Rbb8 47.Be2 Nf6 48.Na6 Rb7 49.Nc7 Qxh3
  +-  (1.64)   Depth: 10   00:00:13  3183kN

(, eim 17.11.2003)





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