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Subject: Re: Interesting position solved only by Junior5 and ExChess 2.45!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:17:07 11/13/98

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On November 13, 1998 at 01:33:00, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote:

>Sorry, I forgot to post the full game here in my privious post...
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>Sagalchik,G - Zamora,J []
>USAT East,Parsippany, 1995
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>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e3 e6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 Bb7
>9.0-0 b4 10.Ne4 c5 11.Nxf6+ gxf6 12.e4 cxd4 13.Nxd4 Bc5 14.Be3 Qb6 15.Bb5 Rd8
>16.Nxe6 fxe6 17.Bxd7+ Ke7 18.Qg4 Bxe3 19.Qg7+ Kd6 20.Rad1+ Bd4 21.Rd2 Kc7
>22.Be8+ Kb8 23.Qxh8 Bc6 24.Qxh7 Bxe8 25.Rc1 e5 26.h4 Qb7 27.Qf5 Qf7 28.h5 Bd7
>29.Qf3 Rg8 30.Rxd4 exd4 31.Qf4+ Ka8 32.Rc7 Qxh5 33.Rxd7 Qd1+ 34.Kh2 Qh5+ 35.Kg1
>Qd1+ 36.Kh2 Qh5+ 37.Kg1 ½-½
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>Subject: Interesting position solved only by Junior5 and Exchess2.45!
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>Posted by Lawrence S. Tamarkin on November 13, 1998 at 01:19:29:
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>I found the following interesting positon from the game, Saglchik-Zamora USAT
>East, Parippany 1995, while studying the Chess Assistant program, 'Encyclopedia
>Of Middlegames'. (A really fantastic tutor program).
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>3rk2r/pb1n1p1p/1q2pp2/1Bb5/1p1NP3/4B3/PP3PPP/R2Q1RK1 w k - 0 1  (16.Nxe6)
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>All engines in Junior were set to 'adopt all hashtables', at the 10 minute
>level, on my Acer, 200MhZ, 32m ram machine, for what it is worth.
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>1. Junior5 finds 16.Nxe6 after 19 seconds
>2. Fritz5 (16 bit), 16.Qd3 is executed after 25 seconds.
>3. Crafty 15.19, 16.Qd3, after 35 seconds.
>4. Exchess 2.45, 16.Nxe6 after 25 seconds.
>5. Rebel 10, 16.Qd3, after 14 seconds (set at 13 meg Hash tables, 10 minute
>   game.
>6. CM6000, 16.Qd3, almost immeidately! And this from the program that finds
>   Mate in 14 in the Shirov-Krasenkov position!
>
>Incidently, 'Encyclopedia Of Middlegames', gives the variation, 16.Nxe6 fxe6
>17.Bxd7+ Ke7 18.Bxc5 Qxc5 19.Qg4 Qe5(?)20.Qg7+ Kd6 21.Rfd1+ Kc7 22.Be8!, as
>winning.  But Junior5 also found the amazing variation, (after, 16.Nxe6 fxe6
>17.Bxd7+ Ke7 18.Bxc5 Qxc5 19.Qg4 Kxd7 20.Qg7+ Qe7! 21.Rfd1 Bd5!, and Black is
>alright! - I think:)
>
>Also, I found by perusing the contents of the Rebel Million Base, that the
>actual game continued this way; 16.Nxe6 fxe6 17.Bxd7 Ke7 18.Qg4 (Sagalchick
>decides against 18.Bxc5!?)...Bxe3 19.Qg7+ Kd6 20.Rad1+ Bd4 21.Rd2 Kc7 22.Be8!
>Ke8! 23.Qxh8 Bc6 24.Qxh7 Bxe8, and Black later drew.  All in all, a really
>facinating game with plenty of complications.  And this game is only in Million
>Base, as far as I know?
>
>
>mrslug - the ikompetent chess software addict!


Here's what I get with the "current" crafty version 16.1, on my ALR machine:

              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166:39 (166:39)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
starting thread 1
starting thread 2
starting thread 3
                1     0.01   1.11   1. Qd3
                1->   0.04   1.11   1. Qd3
                2     0.04     --   1. Qd3
                2     0.04   0.72   1. Qd3 O-O
                2->   0.07   0.72   1. Qd3 O-O
                3     0.13   0.65   1. Qd3 O-O 2. Nf3
                3     0.17     ++   1. Nxe6!!
                3     0.18   1.42   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4
                3->   0.19   1.42   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4
                4     0.20   1.42   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4
                4->   0.29   1.42   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4
                5     0.37   1.59   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4 3. Re1
                5->   0.56   1.59   1. Nxe6 Qxe6 2. Bxc5 Qxe4 3. Re1
                6     0.64     --   1. Nxe6
                6     0.67   0.71   1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxd7+ Ke7 3. Bxc5+
                                    Qxc5 4. Rc1 Qe5 5. f4 Qxb2
                6->   1.46   0.71   1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxd7+ Ke7 3. Bxc5+
                                    Qxc5 4. Rc1 Qe5 5. f4 Qxb2
                7     1.54     --   1. Nxe6
                7     1.63  -0.25   1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxd7+ Ke7 3. Bxc5+
                                    Qxc5 4. Rc1 Qb6 5. e5 Rxd7 6. exf6+
                7     4.27     ++   1. Qd3!!
                7     7.56   0.60   1. Qd3 Qd6 2. Rfd1 Bb6 3. Rac1 O-O
                                    4. Nxe6 Qxe6 5. Bxd7 Bxe3 6. fxe3 Bxe4
                                    7. Bxe6 Bxd3
                7->   9.85   0.60   1. Qd3 Qd6 2. Rfd1 Bb6 3. Rac1 O-O
                                    4. Nxe6 Qxe6 5. Bxd7 Bxe3 6. fxe3 Bxe4
                                    7. Bxe6 Bxd3
                8    17.17   0.54   1. Qd3 a6 2. Ba4 Qd6 3. Rfd1 e5 4.
                                    Nf3 Qxd3 <HT>
                8->  26.69   0.54   1. Qd3 a6 2. Ba4 Qd6 3. Rfd1 e5 4.
                                    Nf3 Qxd3 <HT>
                9    34.39   0.54   1. Qd3 a6 2. Ba4 Qd6 3. Rfd1 e5 4.
                                    Nf3 Qxd3 5. Rxd3 Bxe3 6. Rxe3
                9    51.90     ++   1. Nxe6!!
                9     1:00   1.26   1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxd7+ Ke7 3. Bxc5+
                                    Qxc5 4. Qg4 Kxd7 5. Rad1+ Ke8 6. Qg7
                                    Rf8 7. Rxd8+ Kxd8 8. Qxb7
                9->   1:03   1.26   1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxd7+ Ke7 3. Bxc5+
                                    Qxc5 4. Qg4 Kxd7 5. Rad1+ Ke8 6. Qg7
                                    Rf8 7. Rxd8+ Kxd8 8. Qxb7


So crafty finds it quickly, then changes, then back to Ne6 after 51 seconds.

Bob



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