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Subject: Re: why is open file code such a big deal for programmers?

Author: K. Burcham

Date: 04:43:54 11/17/03

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On November 17, 2003 at 04:20:42, martin fierz wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 20:08:45, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>why do programs allow humans to control these openings?
>>why do programs allow humans to set up these walls instead of exchange pawns for
>>open files?
>>why can't code be written to exchange pawns even when early in book?
>>
>>why stage these matches when so many know what needs to be done with opening
>>code? I wish I knew why this was such a big deal to write code for.
>>
>>I am glad we have highly accomplished GM, but aggravating giving them easy win.
>>I would prefer letting them outplay the program in an open position.
>>
>>kburcham
>
>the real question should be: why do programs like fritz play these closed
>positions worse than any 2000 player? fritz' programmers surely know about those
>weaknesses, why have they never been addressed? with a whole team of
>professionals working on it...

I dont agree. Kasparov worked on this closed position, once he had it, it was to
late for the program. the program played defensive moves while Kasparov was on
the offensive---big difference, then too late.
>
>of course you can add code to your program that says: "every open file more is
>good for me". but this is clearly not an objective evaluation. many times it
>might just be good to keep the position closed. e.g. kaspy as white yesterday
>should not play for immediate pawn exchanges with f2-f3 - which is what some
>programs were suggesting on ICC yesterday, probably because of this stupid
>non-objective evaluation.
>
>for your final point, this is what you get in comp-human matches. kasparov
>blundered terribly in game 2, that was just as aggravating as what happened to
>fritz in game 3.

I dont agree. I follow almost every GM tournament game played that is posted on
the internet. These are full of shallow blunders that a program would not make
at all. I accept this. I do not accept something that can be fixed. Game 3 can
be fixed.
>
>cheers
>  martin



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