Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 09:20:27 11/17/03
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On November 17, 2003 at 12:15:05, David Dahlem wrote:
>On November 17, 2003 at 11:33:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2003 at 11:27:15, David H. McClain wrote:
>>
>>>On November 17, 2003 at 11:19:35, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm trying to create a BKT book (Shredder Classic book format) for Falcon from a
>>>>large database of games. The database has about 500,000 games (I converted it
>>>>from PGN to CBF to save disk space).
>>>>
>>>>I created an empty opening book and imported the database to create the book.
>>>>After one hour (on 733MHz system) the book has gradually grown to 11 MB but
>>>>looking at Shredder interface does not give any indication as to how long the
>>>>operation might take.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone here have an idea how many hours it will take to finish creating the
>>>>book?
>>>
>>>Omid,
>>>
>>>Depends on your hardware.
>>
>>733 MHz, very slow!
>>
>>>I do this all the time but simply import the games
>>>directly into a new Classic opening book (.bkt) format. It also depends on what
>>>length in plies you have chosen to import.
>>
>>I left all the default options. Depth 14 plies relative, import statistics, and
>>don't import lines andmove attributes (don't know what the latter two exactly
>>mean in this context).
>>
>>Shall I modify any of these settings?
>>
>>
>>>I would say a couple hours depending
>>>on my questions.
>>>
>>>Some advice, get rid of all games that are draws and by weak players. This
>>>should cut the size considerably.
>>
>>First I tried pruning all the games below 2600 Elo. Only about 10000 games were
>>left! Maybe I have to cut it at 2400 or 2500...
>>
>>A few months ago I created a smaller book in Fritz interface (ctg format). But
>>as in Graz I will run under the Shredder interface I have to recreate the book
>>in bkt format.
>>
>>Another option is creating the book in fbk format (fritz old book format). This
>>has the benefit of being compatible with both Shredder and Fritz interfaces. The
>>problem is that I don't know of any tool that can create an fbk book out of a
>>database...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>DHM
>
>Hi Omid
>
>For what it's worth, i have a utility program that will convert various book
>formats, including .fbk. Here is the info from the readme file:
>
>FGCRW Opening book Convertor Fritz-Genius-ChessMaster4000-Rebel-WChess
>(C) RNDr.V.Seige, Ing.E.Vlasak, Czech Republic 1994, 1995, 2001
>E.Vlasak, Stavbaru 3, 40011 Usti n.L, EVCOMP@QUICK.CZ, WWW.VLASAK.ZDE.C
>Since 2001 is FGCRW freeware.
>***************************************************************
>Using:
>FGCRW <source book> <destination book>
> {use full paths and correct books extensions}
>Examples:
> FGCRW C:\GENIUS2\BOOK\SICIL.BOK C:\FRITZ3\MATCH\SICIL.FBK
> FGCRW C:\FRITZ3\FRITZ.FBK C:\CM4000\FRITZ.OBK
> FGCRW is DOS software, don't use long filenames!
>***************************************************************
>
>If you're interested, i can email it to you.
Can it convert a ctg or bkt format into fbk? If not, I might try creating a book
with Genius 5 (hoping that it can still be installed on Windows XP), and then
use your utility to convert it to fbk.
Anyway, could you please email me the program to davoudo@cs.biu.ac.il ?
Thanks!
>
>Regards
>Dave
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