Author: David Dahlem
Date: 09:29:17 11/17/03
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On November 17, 2003 at 12:20:27, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>On November 17, 2003 at 12:15:05, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2003 at 11:33:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On November 17, 2003 at 11:27:15, David H. McClain wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 17, 2003 at 11:19:35, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to create a BKT book (Shredder Classic book format) for Falcon from a
>>>>>large database of games. The database has about 500,000 games (I converted it
>>>>>from PGN to CBF to save disk space).
>>>>>
>>>>>I created an empty opening book and imported the database to create the book.
>>>>>After one hour (on 733MHz system) the book has gradually grown to 11 MB but
>>>>>looking at Shredder interface does not give any indication as to how long the
>>>>>operation might take.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone here have an idea how many hours it will take to finish creating the
>>>>>book?
>>>>
>>>>Omid,
>>>>
>>>>Depends on your hardware.
>>>
>>>733 MHz, very slow!
>>>
>>>>I do this all the time but simply import the games
>>>>directly into a new Classic opening book (.bkt) format. It also depends on what
>>>>length in plies you have chosen to import.
>>>
>>>I left all the default options. Depth 14 plies relative, import statistics, and
>>>don't import lines andmove attributes (don't know what the latter two exactly
>>>mean in this context).
>>>
>>>Shall I modify any of these settings?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would say a couple hours depending
>>>>on my questions.
>>>>
>>>>Some advice, get rid of all games that are draws and by weak players. This
>>>>should cut the size considerably.
>>>
>>>First I tried pruning all the games below 2600 Elo. Only about 10000 games were
>>>left! Maybe I have to cut it at 2400 or 2500...
>>>
>>>A few months ago I created a smaller book in Fritz interface (ctg format). But
>>>as in Graz I will run under the Shredder interface I have to recreate the book
>>>in bkt format.
>>>
>>>Another option is creating the book in fbk format (fritz old book format). This
>>>has the benefit of being compatible with both Shredder and Fritz interfaces. The
>>>problem is that I don't know of any tool that can create an fbk book out of a
>>>database...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>DHM
>>
>>Hi Omid
>>
>>For what it's worth, i have a utility program that will convert various book
>>formats, including .fbk. Here is the info from the readme file:
>>
>>FGCRW Opening book Convertor Fritz-Genius-ChessMaster4000-Rebel-WChess
>>(C) RNDr.V.Seige, Ing.E.Vlasak, Czech Republic 1994, 1995, 2001
>>E.Vlasak, Stavbaru 3, 40011 Usti n.L, EVCOMP@QUICK.CZ, WWW.VLASAK.ZDE.C
>>Since 2001 is FGCRW freeware.
>>***************************************************************
>>Using:
>>FGCRW <source book> <destination book>
>> {use full paths and correct books extensions}
>>Examples:
>> FGCRW C:\GENIUS2\BOOK\SICIL.BOK C:\FRITZ3\MATCH\SICIL.FBK
>> FGCRW C:\FRITZ3\FRITZ.FBK C:\CM4000\FRITZ.OBK
>> FGCRW is DOS software, don't use long filenames!
>>***************************************************************
>>
>>If you're interested, i can email it to you.
>
>Can it convert a ctg or bkt format into fbk? If not, I might try creating a book
>with Genius 5 (hoping that it can still be installed on Windows XP), and then
>use your utility to convert it to fbk.
>
>Anyway, could you please email me the program to davoudo@cs.biu.ac.il ?
>
>Thanks!
>
>>
>>Regards
>>Dave
Hi Omid
I was wondering myself if it would convert .ctg books, since i haven't tried it.
I have converted some chessmaster .obk books to .fbk books, then imported the
.fbk book to .ctg. :-)
At any rate, i'll send the converter and you should have it shortly.
Regards
Dave
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