Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:01:14 11/17/03
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On November 17, 2003 at 10:49:25, martin fierz wrote: >On November 17, 2003 at 10:27:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 17, 2003 at 09:31:28, martin fierz wrote: >> >>>On November 17, 2003 at 09:19:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On November 17, 2003 at 07:34:51, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>>That's not a place where _I_ would have resigned, for the record... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I can't attest to it, as I don't receive it in Brazil, but comments in the ICC >>>>>chat said that at the end the ESPN coverage had been cut. Combined with the fact >>>>>that I also don't believe GK was going to miss the comp, I'd say that's a pretty >>>>>reasonable conspiracy theory... :-) >>>>> >>>>> Albert >>>> >>>> >>>>I wasn't watching ESPN's coverage. I was online on ICC with Crafty running >>>>in channel 211 as usual. The resignation came with crafty at +2, which seems >>>>_way_ early, unless there is some sort of agreement that when Fritz goes >>>>down -2 it _must_ resign... >>> >>>you seem to believe that the number the eval spits out has something to do with >>>how hard it is to win a position... that isn't true ;-) >>> >>>cheers >>> martin >> >> >>I seem to remember "meat makes mistakes". I might resign at -5 or something, >>but not at -2. Remember that Kasparov had good positions in games 1 and 2. >>In game two he lost, rather than Fritz "winning". I'd want to have him >>demonstrate that he would not do the same thing in game 3. :) > >meat makes mistakes *much* more frequently when either >- meat is in time trouble >- the position is complicated >both was not the case here. it was the appropriate moment to resign. i guess if >you play out a few more moves on your machine, as suggested by the commentators >(or basically, exchange a few more pieces by invading on the a-file), crafty >will soon say +3 or more for white. > >cheers > martin My problem with resigning so early is that it is not that unlikely that white makes a small mistake. Then another. I remember Levy playing chess 4.x in the late 70's, and it found a crushing sacrifice against him. He said "The position is totally hopeless for me here" in his later analysis. Then a few moves later he said "it is not not totally hopeless, just hopeless." And eventually it became a draw if I recall correctly. A score of +2 is not winning, IMHO, even though in this position white has all the play. However, the game is wearing on well beyond 40 moves, white is tired. Black is not. The game pace is speeding up. Etc... I don't see any good reason for not playing on a few more moves until it is "completely hopeless" not just "sad". :)
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