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Subject: Re: Kasparov Annotates Game 1, Shipov Annotates Game 2.

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 17:50:05 11/17/03

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On November 17, 2003 at 17:49:37, Amir Ban wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 13:47:41, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2003 at 09:43:56, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2003 at 05:15:43, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 15, 2003 at 23:39:04, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 15, 2003 at 20:10:28, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 15, 2003 at 02:37:44, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.worldchessrating.com/534332864.html?150441334582865
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.worldchessrating.com/534418102.html?0973762115463614
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shipov's comments about how computers play chess are an insult to intelligence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Amir
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't think anyone is looking for an in depth review, it's for the general
>>>>>public, not GM's or Computer Chess Programmers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I didn't mean that he's keeping it simple. I mean he doesn't have a clue.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Indirectly, you're also insulting me for posting these links.
>>>>>Or am I mistaken?
>>>>
>>>>??? It's you who posted them.
>>>>
>>>>Amir
>>>
>>>Why the question marks? My question was simple enough. Of course I posted them.
>>>I'll be more direct. Are you saying I'm without a clue as well? It would appear
>>>so.
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>Here is Shipov's Introduction:
>>
>>'X3D Fritz – G.Kasparov [C66]
>>This game illustrates the difference between human and machine. Human can reason
>>strategically, carry out various plans, and play positionally. As for the
>>machine's virtues, it calculates variations with precision and never blunders
>>(in contrast to humans).'
>>
>>Ok, this isn't accurate, just a generalization, and I wouldn't put a lot of
>>stock in it.
>>
>>We both know better, and I bet if Shipov were pressed, I'm sure he does too.
>>
>>Terry
>
>I hope this is not offensive to you: Shipov's comments to moves 24 and 31 are
>clueless. He's convinced that chess programs are primitive jobs done by morons
>who manage to come up with one or two simple heuristics and then sit around for
>years, out of ideas.
>
>Amir

I just read it more carefully, you're correct, Shipov is either clueless, or he
holds computers in great contempt! I suspect the latter.

Terry



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