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Subject: Re: Crafty ....Gari's complaints

Author: margolies,marc

Date: 19:15:17 11/17/03

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Hi Martin (btw i love your checkers prog)

 I think Gari was very correct to dress down the Match Arbiter, Albert Vassar,
regarding the conditions of game 2.
a> it is the Arbiter's Responsibility to ensure that the playing conditions are
correct-- and as Seirawan pointed out--- discomforts are only suffered by the
Human side because the Machine 'feels nothing.'
b>Since the Technology was part of the match, the machine should have suffered a
 time penalty for operator error, in my opinion.
c> MOST IMPORTANTLY, it shows that arbiter Vasser never put on the stupid X3D
goggles to look at the board! What kind of arbiter at a chess match in virtual
reality cannot see the board ever! This is the rudest hoax I can imagine.
Morever, In game 1 when I saw some of the TV coverage,   Vassar just sat in a
chair where he could not observe anything-- and I did not see a pair of the
stupid glasses supplied to him either. He looked rather funny to me, like the
character comedian Chris Elliot played in the movie "13 Ghosts," and he only
needed a fake claw hand to complete the comedy.
Of course Gari would only complain because he lost (and this does Look like sour
grapes) but had Gari won, would this Arbitorial Malfeasance have caused
considerable injury to necessitate a Public grievance?
-Marc


On November 17, 2003 at 09:32:01, martin fierz wrote:

>On November 17, 2003 at 09:17:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2003 at 05:24:57, Mig Greengard wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2003 at 23:24:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 16, 2003 at 22:49:20, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 16, 2003 at 22:22:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There was something strange about the start.  IE after Nf3 Fritz took over
>>>>>>four minutes to play Nf6.  That was odd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That delay was for a photo session.  I'm pretty sure the clocks weren't running.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That could be.  However I was watching it on ESPN2, and they were finished
>>>>with the nonsense pretty quickly.  The clock on the monitor was definitely
>>>>running, although I am not sure that it wasn't adjusted later...
>>>
>>>The clock was adjusted as soon as the VIPs left the room and the photographers
>>>were shooed out. X3D Fritz had 1:59:59 on its clock after 1...Nf6. This is done
>>>because such distractions only harm the human, as opposed to both players in a
>>>human-human game or neither player in a machine-machine game.
>>>
>>>Saludos, Mig
>>
>>
>>OK.  That makes Kasparov seem even more petty than normal, however.  He
>>complained and whined seriously about game two, where the 3d board was set up
>>with white on his side of the board.  He claimed that "he was ready to play,
>>and this was a distraction."  Wouldn't disrupting the game between white's
>>first move and black's first move, for 4+ minutes, be a _bigger_ distraction?
>
>of course, but then kasparov would have complained about it had he lost game 3!
>
>cheers
>  martin



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