Author: K. Burcham
Date: 20:01:41 11/17/03
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If you look at the evals below on the Be4 move that Kasparov thought the operators interfered, you will see that several of todays programs see this move in eval and will play this move. some of these are old evals with old hardware. Here is an article from 1997 News quoting Kasparov: The match ended in an atmosphere of hostility and suspicion, and Mr. Kasparov expressed his frustration again and again in terms that had to do with the machine's magic. During the match, he attributed one move to ''the hand of God.'' In an interview on Friday, in which he challenged Deep Blue to a third match, the word he used was mystery. ''It's very difficult to analyze the results of the match,'' Mr. Kasparov said. ''I know what I did wrong. But I don't know what the computer did wrong or right. It's a mystery.'' What particularly irks Mr. Kasparov is his sense that it was not Deep Blue's awesome calculating ability -- it can examine 200 million moves per second -- that defeated him. It was its ability to evaluate those positions. It seemed, he said, to understand complexities of chess that no other computer has come close to duplicating. The Deep Blue team agreed that this was the main element in the computer's improvement (though the extra speed didn't hurt), but it is something Mr. Kasparov has had trouble accepting. ''If that is the case,'' he said, ''then they have to explain it to the rest of the world. Tell us how you accomplished it, because it's far beyond anyone's understanding. I met something I couldn't explain. People turn to religion to explain things like that. I have to imagine human interference, or I want to see an explanation.'' Deep Blue game 2 37.Be4 [D] r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 Deep Fritz 7: 2x1533mhz amd mp 1 gig ram 432 hash 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qe6+ Qxe6 40.fxe6 ± (0.94) Depth: 9/27 00:00:00 378kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qb7 Bd6 40.Be4 Rb8 41.Qc6 Qxc6 ± (0.75) Depth: 10/20 00:00:00 574kN 37.Be4! ± (0.78) Depth: 10/26 00:00:00 734kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Kh2 Rxa2 39.Rxa2 Qd7 40.Qe3 Qe8 41.Qg3 Qf7 42.Kg1 ± (0.81) Depth: 11/28 00:00:01 2841kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 ± (0.81) Depth: 12/30 00:00:03 5806kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 ± (0.81) Depth: 13/29 00:00:05 9048kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Qd7 42.Qg3 Rd8 ± (0.81) Depth: 14/34 00:00:09 15852kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Bc7 42.Ra2 Bd6 43.Ra5 ± (0.78) Depth: 15/34 00:00:17 28490kN 37.Qb6! ± (0.81) Depth: 15/36 00:00:25 41796kN 37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Ke7 42.Be4 g5 43.fxg6 Kxe6 ± (0.91) Depth: 15/40 00:00:41 69054kN 37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Bb6 42.Ra6 ± (0.91) Depth: 16/42 00:00:57 95828kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.Kf2 Kf7 43.Kf3 Ke7 44.Ke4 Ba7 45.a6 Kd6 ± (0.78) Depth: 17/44 00:01:32 154697kN 37.Be4! ± (0.81) Depth: 17/44 00:02:12 222853kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Rc6 Qd7 42.Qe3 Rb8 43.Ra6 Rc8 44.Qb6 ± (0.84) Depth: 18/48 00:04:50 485318kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Kf8 40.Ra7 Rxa7 41.Qxa7 Rb6 42.Qa2 Rb8 43.Qa6 Rb6 ± (0.81) Depth: 19/45 00:07:13 734571kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Kf8 40.Ra7 Rxa7 41.Qxa7 Rb6 42.Qa2 Rb8 43.Qa6 Rb6 ± (0.81) Depth: 20/54 00:14:01 1427215kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Kf8 40.Ra7 Rxa7 41.Qxa7 Rb6 42.Qa2 Rb8 43.Qa6 Rb6 ± (0.81) Depth: 21/58 00:26:12 2679879kN DeepShredder 7: 2x1533mhz amd mp 1 gig ram 432 hash 10/21 0:01 +0.64 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kh8 4.Ra6 Qd8 5.Qc6 Rb8 6.Kf1 Qe7 7.d6 (646.143) 607.8 11/27 0:02 +0.81 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Rxa8 Qxa8 6.Qd7 Qa1+ 7.Ke2 Kg8 8.Qxc7 Qf1+ 9.Kxf1 Kf8 (1.417.485) 629.9 12/32 0:04 +0.85 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Rxa8 Qxa8 6.d6 Bd8 7.d7 Be7 8.Bb1 Qa7 (2.868.848) 646.4 13/31 0:08 +0.77 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Qxe8+ Rxe8 6.Ra7 Bd6 7.Rd7 Be7 8.Rb7 Bd6 9.Rxb5 Re6 (5.464.852) 645.2 14/37 0:20 +1.01 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 6.Ra7 Kd6 7.Bg6 Kxd5 8.e7 e4 (13.112.809) 645.0 15/38 0:43 +1.06 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Qxe8+ Rxe8 6.Ra7 Bb8 7.Rb7 e4 8.Rxb5 Be5 9.Bxe4 Bxc3 10.Bf3 (28.513.074) 653.1 16/41 1:29 +0.81-- 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Rxa8 Qxa8 4.Qxd6 Qa1+ 5.Kh2 Qc1 6.Qb8+ Kh7 7.Qxb5 Qf4+ 8.Kg1 Qc1+ 9.Kf2 Qxc2+ 10.Kf1 Qxf5+ 11.Ke1 Qe4+ 12.Kf1 Qb1+ 13.Kf2 Qc2+ 14.Kg1 (57.560.591) 643.3 16/43 2:21 +0.43 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Kf1 Qxb6 6.axb6 Kf8 7.h4 Ke7 8.Kf2 Kd7 9.g3 (93.466.344) 661.7 17/42 4:41 +0.43 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Qxb8+ Bxb8 6.Be4 Kf8 7.Kf1 Ke7 8.Ke2 Ba7 9.g4 Kd7 (186.198.873) 661.5 18/47 8:41 +0.36 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Qxb8+ Bxb8 6.Be4 Kf8 7.Kf2 Ke7 8.Kf3 Kd6 9.g4 (354.672.715) 679.9 18/47 10:25 +0.37++ 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kh2 Rxa2 3.Qxa2 Rb8 4.Qa6 Rb6 5.Qa8 Rb8 6.Qc6 Bc7 7.Ra7 Qxd5 (420.261.014) 671.7 18/47 11:58 +0.45 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kh2 Rxa2 3.Qxa2 Rb8 4.Qa6 Rb6 5.Qa8 Bb8 6.Ra7 Kh7 7.Rb7 Qd6 (479.939.943) 667.8 19/43 17:19 +0.44 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 3.Ra6 Rxa6 4.Rxa6 Be7 5.Qg1 Ra8 6.Qb6 Qxb6 7.Rxb6 Ra1+ 8.Kf2 h5 9.Rxb5 Ra2+ 10.Kf1 Ra1+ 11.Ke2 Ra2+ 12.Ke1 Kf7 (679.033.531) 653.2 20/45 33:25 +0.46 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rxa2 3.Qxa2 Rb8 4.Qa6 Rb6 5.Qa8 Bb8 6.Ra7 Qe8 7.Rb7 Rxb7 8.Qxb7 Bd6 9.Qc6 Qxc6 10.dxc6 g5 11.fxg6 Bxb4 (1.261.765.364) 629.1 21/48 62:43 +0.48 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 3.Ra6 Rxa6 4.Rxa6 Rb7 5.Qa2 Kh7 6.g3 Bxb4 7.cxb4 Kh8 8.Rc6 Qxd5 (2.331.447.888) 619.5 best move: Bc2-e4 time: 67:34.360 min n/s: 629.758 CPU 199.8% nodes: 2.553.265.604 Deep Junior 7: 2x1533mhz amd mp 1 gig ram 432 hash 37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Qf7 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qa7 Qxa7+ ± (0.74) Depth: 9 00:00:00 11kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Rd8 39.Be4 Kh7 40.Ra7 ± (0.87) Depth: 9 00:00:00 28kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Rxa8 Qxa8 ± (0.78) Depth: 12 00:00:01 631kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qh5 41.Qxd6 Qe2 42.Qb8+ Kh7 43.Kh2 Qxc2 44.d6 Qxf5 45.Qxb5 Qf4+ 46.g3 ² (0.62) Depth: 15 00:00:04 7337kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.a6 Kf7 43.Kf1 Ke7 44.Be4 Kd6 ² (0.55) Depth: 18 00:00:25 46880kN 37.Be4 Bc7 38.Kh2 Rxa2 39.Rxa2 Qd8 40.Ra6 Rb8 41.Qc5 ² (0.64) Depth: 18 00:00:31 50924kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Rxa6 39.Rxa6 Qd8 40.Kh2 Bc7 41.Qc5 Bb6 42.Qc6 Be3 43.Qe6+ Kf8 44.d6 ² (0.60) Depth: 20 00:00:50 93048kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Rxa6 39.Rxa6 Qd8 40.Kh1 Ra8 41.Qb6 Qxb6 42.Rxb6 Ra1+ 43.Kh2 Re1 ² (0.63) Depth: 21 00:01:34 169451kN 37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra7 Rxa7 39.Qxa7 Qd8 40.Qa6 Bc7 ² (0.55) Depth: 22 00:02:52 301337kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.a6 Kf7 43.g4 Ba7+ 44.Kf1 Ke7 45.Be4 Kd6 46.Ke2 ² (0.57) Depth: 22 00:12:22 1006736kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.Kf2 Kf7 43.a6 Ba7+ ² (0.58) Depth: 23 00:23:17 2462595kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.Kf2 Kf7 43.a6 Ba7+ 44.Kf3 Ke7 45.g4 Kd6 46.Be4 ² (0.61) Depth: 24 00:48:07 1076229kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.Kf2 Kf7 43.a6 Ke7 44.Kf3 Kd7 45.Ke4 ² (0.60) Depth: 25 01:33:42 2176048kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qb8 41.Qxb8+ Bxb8 42.Kf2 Kf7 43.a6 Ke7 44.Be4 b4 45.cxb4 Ba7+ 46.Kf3 ² (0.62) Depth: 26 07:28:03 3339697kN, tb=2 Chess Tiger 14.0: default settings 1800 mhz amd xp 512 ram 192 hash 2/16/03 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qe6+ Kf8 40.Be4 Rd8 41.Qxe8+ Kxe8 42.g4 Bb6+ 43.Kf1 Kf7 44.Ra6 = (0.18) Depth: 11 00:00:00 190kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qe6+ Kf8 40.Be4 Rd8 41.Ra6 Qd7 42.Qxd7 Rxd7 43.Ra8+ Rd8 44.Ra7 = (0.18) Depth: 11 00:00:00 245kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qe6+ Kf8 40.Be4 Rd8 41.Qxe8+ Kxe8 42.Ra6 Kf7 43.g4 Rd6 44.Ra7 = (0.22) Depth: 12 00:00:01 446kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qb7 Bd6 40.Ra6 Rb8 41.Qc6 Qxc6 42.Rxc6 Bf8 43.Be4 Rd8 44.g4 ² (0.48) Depth: 13 00:00:03 1442kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qb7 Bd6 40.Ra6 Rb8 41.Qc6 Qxc6 42.Rxc6 Bf8 43.Be4 Ra8 44.d6 Ra1+ 45.Kh2 ² (0.60) Depth: 14 00:00:05 2371kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qb7 Bd6 40.Be4 Rb8 41.Qc6 Qxc6 42.dxc6 Bc7 43.Kh2 Bb6 44.Ra6 Kh7 45.g4 ² (0.56) Depth: 15 00:00:10 5139kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qb7 Bd6 40.Be4 Kh7 41.Ra6 Rb8 42.Qc6 Qxc6 43.Rxc6 Bf8 44.Ra6 Rb7 45.Re6 Rd7 ² (0.62) Depth: 16 00:00:19 9716kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Qb8 40.Qxb8+ Rxb8 41.Ra6 Rd8 42.Rb6 e4 43.Bxe4 Be5 44.Rxb5 Bxc3 45.Rb7 Bd4+ ² (0.64) Depth: 17 00:00:54 27113kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Qb8 40.Qxb8+ Rxb8 41.Ra6 Rd8 42.Kf1 Be7 43.Be4 Kh8 44.Rb6 Ra8 45.Rxb5 Ra1+ ² (0.62) Depth: 18 00:02:31 78991kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Qb8 40.Qxb8+ Rxb8 41.Ra6 Rd8 42.Kf1 Be7 43.Be4 Bf8 44.g3 Rb8 45.g4 Kh7 46.Kf2 ± (0.76) Depth: 19 00:05:56 189596kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Qb8 40.Qxb8+ Rxb8 41.Ra6 Rd8 42.Kf1 Be7 43.Be4 Bf8 44.g3 Rb8 45.Kf2 Kh7 46.Kg1 ± (0.76) Depth: 20 00:10:44 349009kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qh5 41.a6 Qg5 42.a7 Qc1+ 43.Bd1 Qxd1+ 44.Kh2 Qxd5 45.Qd8+ Kh7 = (0.11) Depth: 21 00:16:18 533120kN 37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Ra8 39.Ra5 Rxa5 40.bxa5 Qh5 41.Qxd6 Qe2 42.Qb8+ Kh7 43.Qxb5 Qe3+ 44.Kh1 Qc1+ 45.Bd1 = (0.08) Depth: 22 02:33:52 5220230kN 37.Be4 Qd8 38.Kh2 Rxa2 39.Qxa2 Rb8 40.Qa6 Kh7 41.g3 Rb6 42.Qa8 Rb8 43.Qa7 Bc7 = (0.12) Depth: 22 02:52:31 5828287kN 37.Be4 Qd8 38.Kh2 Rxa2 39.Qxa2 Rb8 40.Qa6 Kh7 41.g3 Rb6 42.Qa8 Rb8 43.Qa7 Bc7 44.Qc5 Bd6 = (0.12) Depth: 23 03:58:53 8079201kN 37.Be4 Qd8 38.Kh2 Rxa2 39.Qxa2 Rb8 40.Qa6 Kh7 41.g3 Rb6 42.Qa8 Rb8 43.Qa7 Bc7 44.Qa6 Bb6 45.Rd1 Qe8 46.g4 Be3 = (0.12) Depth: 24 07:41:24 15827099kN
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