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Subject: Re: When will they put Pocket PC s in the ssdf race?

Author: Frank Schneider

Date: 08:56:09 11/18/03

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On November 18, 2003 at 10:36:39, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 18, 2003 at 02:44:53, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>
>>Joseph,
>>
>>You can do a rough estimate of the Pocket PC Strength by subtracting 50 to 75
>>elo points for every halving of clock speed. Assuming that the top PC programs
>>are 2700 on a machine running at 3000 Mhz then there would be a decrease of 200
>>to 300 points in performance on the Pocket PCs x-scale processor running at 300
>>to 400 Mhz. ie 2x2x2=8  ; -75 points change for every halving.
>>
>>IOW the little wonders should be doing 2400 to 2500 level chess.  Mr. Byrne has
>>been doing a study of this in his many posts at this site.
>>
>>Amazing,
>>
>>TJF
>>
>
>I recently acquired a hp 2015 Pocket PC and am running Pocket Grandmaster on it.
> The programmer claims a rating of around 2500 on it, which is nice in theory.

Hi,

I don't think I claimed a rating of 2500 for PocketGrandmaster.

We only played a few "rated" testgames versus human opponents. On the one
hand PocketGrandmaster won twice from a > 2400Elo player (who had a bad day),
on the other hand it only scored about 60-70% against a 2050Elo player with
experience in playing computers (an author who writes for a
computerchess-magazine).
On an iPAQ 3660 (206MHz StrongARM) I estimate the rating is about
2200Elo (european ELO, USCF-ratings are usually higher). On a
400MHz XScale-Pocket PC running Windows Mobile 2003, PocketGrandmaster
is about 4 times faster, which would add approx. 100 Elo.

Best,
Frank



>
>Unfortunately, when on infinite analysis the little squirt only gets up to a
>depth of eleven or twelve after what seems like a year of waiting.  From my
>experience with Fritz, Junior, Tiger, Shredder, Crafty and Hiarcs running on a 3
>GHz machine, I have learned that moves are not trustworthy until average depth
>of search is at least 16 or 18.  Hence, I would not trust a pocket PC for
>analysis.  That does not mean, however, that I could win against it, although I
>have not played any games yet.  I use it for different purposes.
>
>Bob D.
>>
>>On November 17, 2003 at 19:22:22, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I would be nice to see how the diferent programs ( pocket Fritz 2 , genius , and
>>>the others )out there would fair on the ssdf.
>>>
>>>Regards



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