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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US

Author: José Carlos

Date: 02:56:08 11/19/03

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On November 19, 2003 at 05:34:52, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On November 19, 2003 at 04:59:59, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>(1)
>>Would you guys (esp. from the US) prefer it if the WCCC event would be held over
>>the internet in general or once in the US, once in Europe or something like
>>that?
>
>Internet, without question. There are plenty of other "in person" events
>throughout the year to meet people or whatever. If it is going to be called a
>WORLD championship, then everyone should have a realistic chance of
>participating. I suspect that anyone who has written a chess program (a) has a
>computer, and (b) probably has internet access, and could thus compete.
>
>
>>(2)
>>In case such events would be held over the internet, how would you make sure
>>that cheating is not likely to happen? I think Russell suggested little 'hubs'
>>around the world (like in Europe, US, Asia, Australia, etc) so that everyone can
>>participate in the event but there would be some sort of control. I think that's
>>a very interesting idea, although it seems to be very hard to actually do it
>>since it requires a lot of organization and costs money.
>
>I don't know that it has to cost any more money that it already does. The
>European people can meet wherever they would have normally met, people in the US
>could either go to Alabama (Bob) or Washington (Bruce, Tom, and more) or some
>other agreed upon place. I'm sure Bob could get us a room with an internet
>connection, and we'd be set.
>
>Surely travelling more locally will be cheaper for everyone. It still isn't as
>cheap as a pure online event, but it's a good middle ground I think.
>
>Locally we have a place called the Gaming Center, where they have lots of
>computers loaded up with video games and you can pay to play online. They have
>held similar events at their place, where a team of gamers will come and play
>against another team located far away in a qualifier match for some bigger
>tournament. They have a tournament director type person to make sure it's legit,
>and both teams get to play in the qualifier without travelling across the
>country. That's where I got the idea from.
>
>
>>While I think the measurements against cheating in the upcoming CCT-event are
>>reasonable, it seems obvious to me, that one has to do more than that if the
>>'importance' of the event is higher.
>
>One idea, someone could write a client/server anti-cheat software package. They
>have these for all kinds of online games that detect known cheats. Maybe
>something like that would work.
>
>
>>(3)
>>I believe there is enough interest in CC-tournaments in the US. But I have to
>>ask the simple question: Why aren't there any? I mean, in Europe it's noth just
>>WCCC, it's also Leiden, it's Paderborn, and maybe some others too. What
>>tournament is held in the US? There has to be a reason for it. It's not lack of
>>interest, it's not lack of sponsors, so what is it? (this is not meant as a
>>flame, but as a serious question :)
>
>Steven Edwards is holding a North American event in mid-2004, an online event,
>in preparation for an in person event. I'd be interested to hear what others
>have to say about why nothing has gone on for a decade though (I have no idea).

  Not that I can play anyway, because of my f...ing job, but I like your idea
very much as it greatly increases the potential number of participants from
everywhere on earth.
  Some webcams and screens to chat online with participants on the other side of
the world would make it almost perfect.

  José C.



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