Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 15:11:45 11/13/98
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On November 13, 1998 at 17:29:50, Christophe Theron wrote: >>The winauto232-driver is not working correctly. Allways when Junior 5 or the >>other engines (Crafty or Exchess) lose a game the autoplayer stop playing. The >>next thing is that when you want to send the savegame-command to the other >>program Junior send fist the new-game-command and the the save-game-command. The >>result is, that the other program is only able to save the beginning position. > > >!!!!! But this is very nice for chess-base and their "autoplayer"-system. because it makes the opponents unable to learn, and fritz/junior learns. result: 70% ! :-)))) this is of course not cheating. it is "beeing clever and smart". >What ??!! > >Thorsten has indeed reported that he could not autoplay Tiger and Junior because >the autoplayer stops, and he also noticed that Tiger had been unable to save the >few games that were played before the match was stopped. right. >Does anyone know if the Junior5 autoplayer and the Fritz5 autoplayer are the >same, or close? :-)))))))) maybe we do only know 1% of the tricks. i have heard there are other tricks too. but nobody has the courage to speak about in public, because nobody wants to get problems with chessBase. therefore nobody says in public THAT they cheat. i am not afraid. >Do I understand well? If Junior5 loses a game the auto232 match is stopped??? >In any case the opponent will save only the beginning position??? Or just >sometimes? :-)))) >I remember, Ed posted here on CCC that somebody reported that Rebel had been >prevented from saving (some?) of its games against Fritz, completely screwing up >Rebel's autolearn feature. that would explain why fritz got the most point FROM "BEATING" REBEL ! but is this really about strength ? Isn't this about cheating and manipulation ? Is this about chess ? no - it is about how to cheat in autoplayer-sessions. No wonder that i was unable to reproduce their results. You cannot reproduce these results if you don't behave THIS CLEVER... >The question is: does Fritz5 autoplayer have the same "bug"??? "bug" --- you say it christophe.................. >>I think it is time for a patch which correct this mistake. :-)))))))) Mistake ?!? :-)))))))) >"Mistake" !?... :-)) I wonder why nobody of the chess-base mafia told us about this "little, tiny bug/mistake/problem". i am sure it was not important to tell us :-))))) but : in the end - any betrayal comes out. "Die helle Sonne bringt es an den Tag."
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