Author: martin fierz
Date: 09:25:33 11/19/03
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On November 19, 2003 at 12:06:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 19, 2003 at 11:51:59, martin fierz wrote: > >>On November 19, 2003 at 11:34:17, Matthew Hull wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:30:37, martin fierz wrote: >>> >>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:06:21, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:55:26, martin fierz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:31:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>here. Makes a _lot_ of sense. And it shows just how "world" aware the >>>>>>>ICCA actually is. >>>>>> >>>>>>i don't really want to be involved in this thread, but i can't resist this >>>>>>one... >>>>>> >>>>>>disclaimer: of course it would be much more sensible to have the championship in >>>>>>the US from time to time. >>>>>> >>>>>>cheapo: so the ICCA does something which is not good for *one* country >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>That's one cheapo that doesn't work. It would be like 2000 years ago holding >>>>>gladiator events that discommode only one country, Rome. >>>>> >>>>>MH >>>> >>>>of course it works, and you just invite the next follow up cheapo ;-) >>>> >>>>2000 years ago the romans were perhaps not aware that there was much more to the >>>>world than rome. sometimes one gets the feeling that the US citizens are no >>>>different in this respect... >>> >>> >>>Ok, how about holding a world chess championship that only inconviences >>>Russians. >>> >>>I think you get the idea. :) >>> >>>MH >> >>of course i get the idea! i put a disclaimer on my first post stating clearly >>that IMO the championship should be held in the US from time to time, and i >>labelled my posts as cheapos :-) >>i thought that made it clear enough... >> >>going back to your comparison with the russians: exactly how many american >>programs are in the top 10 of the SSDF list? hint: less than russians in the top >>10 of the FIDE list! >> >>cheers >> martin > > >Let's see. Wchess has been up there. Mchess Pro also. that's "has been". matthew was making the point that if you were to hold a world championship in human chess without russian participants, it would be meaningless, which is true. looking at the *current* state of computer chess, it seems to me that a computer chess championship without US-american participants is not meaningless at all. that's all i was saying.... >On the other end there was Deep Blue, Cray Blitz, HiTech, Zarkov, socrates, >to name a few... Do you have to be on top before you get an event in your >area of the world? How does that _produce_ interest and foster development? ....of course not and no... i'm just saying matthew's comparison is wrong... you could answer to what's written and not to what you read into my post! cheers martin PS: to end this on a more constructive note: i seriously hope that you have something in crafty's eval that discourages the f3-move you suggested in response to uri's question on program vs. human evaluation!
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