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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US

Author: martin fierz

Date: 15:25:40 11/19/03

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On November 19, 2003 at 17:42:37, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On November 19, 2003 at 11:51:59, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:34:17, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:30:37, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:06:21, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:55:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:31:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>here.  Makes a _lot_ of sense.  And it shows just how "world" aware the
>>>>>>>ICCA actually is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i don't really want to be involved in this thread, but i can't resist this
>>>>>>one...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>disclaimer: of course it would be much more sensible to have the championship in
>>>>>>the US from time to time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>cheapo: so the ICCA does something which is not good for *one* country
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's one cheapo that doesn't work.  It would be like 2000 years ago holding
>>>>>gladiator events that discommode only one country, Rome.
>>>>>
>>>>>MH
>>>>
>>>>of course it works, and you just invite the next follow up cheapo ;-)
>>>>
>>>>2000 years ago the romans were perhaps not aware that there was much more to the
>>>>world than rome. sometimes one gets the feeling that the US citizens are no
>>>>different in this respect...
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok, how about holding a world chess championship that only inconviences
>>>Russians.
>>>
>>>I think you get the idea.  :)
>>>
>>>MH
>>
>>of course i get the idea! i put a disclaimer on my first post stating clearly
>>that IMO the championship should be held in the US from time to time, and i
>>labelled my posts as cheapos :-)
>>i thought that made it clear enough...
>>
>>going back to your comparison with the russians: exactly how many american
>>programs are in the top 10 of the SSDF list? hint: less than russians in the top
>>10 of the FIDE list!
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>You're missing the point of the events completely.  You don't have to write a
>program that is in "the top 10 of the SSDF list" to be interested in computer
>chess and support computer chess in general.  If that were the point of the
>event, they would require that ranking to join.
>
>-elc.

sheesh!

if anyone is missing a point here it's you! why don't you read the post
completely before crying wolf?

matthew suggested that holding a CC world championship without US participation
is about like playing a human chess world championship without russians.

that statement is totally wrong. there is simply not a single US program which
is anywhere near the top of computer chess, period. 5 russians are in the top 10
humans, and they are on number one and two. so i challenged his opinion... am i
right or am i right with that? if i happen to be wrong then correct me. but
don't come with something that has nothing to do with my original post!

i NEVER said you needed to be good to play in the world championship. i said i
was in favor of a championship in the US. i guess you missed that...

if you guys just read what i write instead of reading what you think i wouldn't
have to post this stuff...

cheers
 martin



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