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Subject: Re: If Kasparov ever plays another machine-human match,

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 18:35:02 11/19/03

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On November 19, 2003 at 20:53:15, Rex wrote:

>On November 19, 2003 at 16:58:01, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>Most of us here in CCC agree that in order to find out whether X or Y is stonger
>>takes _a lot_ of games, especially when their strength is close to each other.
>>
>>It's amazing what people think about results of 2.5-1.5, 2-2 or 1.5-2.5, when it
>>comes to human-comps though...
>>
>>And...
>>
>>It's not:
>>-GK doesn't fight for human kind when fighting Fritz
>>-GK doesn't save the human race when he beats the machine 2.5-1.5
>>-it's not a victory of the machines when Fritz wins 2.5-1.5
>>-chess is not rendered useless if Fritz wins
>>-etc
>>
>>it is:
>>-it's simply a commercial event with money and product placement at stake
>>-fun to watch
>>-only bearable in ICC with 'set kib 2'
>>-etc
>>
>>GK will play computers in such events as long as there's a sponsor. He doesn't
>>"deserve another chance" or anything like that.
>>
>>Sargon
>
>
>I get so tired of this crap.  And this goes with comp ver comp games.  If two
>parties agree on FOUR games and there is a winner then we can say the winner
>is_the_best_or even the strongest.  If this was NOT to be the case then we can
>say the same about any Super Bowl winner.  OH it was only one game.  What? you
>expect to play 100 super bowl games.
>
>Look a tourney is an agreed tourney between two parties with the understanding
>of possibly ONE winner who has the GLORY of saying I AM THE BEST!! Dont take
>anything away from a winner.  In the Kaspy ver Computer match we can say there
>were no winners.  Title wise.

And how bout 1000 boxing matches?
Anyway, when there is a draw, it DOESN'T make anyone prove stronger, and when
one wins by half a point, it doesn't make him look like the weaker player.

Putting Kasparovs last 3 man/machine matches togeher, also, doesn't make
Kasparov look better than the machine either! (even if he is full of
determination at revenge).

S.Taylor



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