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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:57:20 11/20/03

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On November 19, 2003 at 18:25:40, martin fierz wrote:

>On November 19, 2003 at 17:42:37, enrico carrisco wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:51:59, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:34:17, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:30:37, martin fierz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 11:06:21, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:55:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 19, 2003 at 10:31:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>here.  Makes a _lot_ of sense.  And it shows just how "world" aware the
>>>>>>>>ICCA actually is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i don't really want to be involved in this thread, but i can't resist this
>>>>>>>one...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>disclaimer: of course it would be much more sensible to have the championship in
>>>>>>>the US from time to time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>cheapo: so the ICCA does something which is not good for *one* country
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's one cheapo that doesn't work.  It would be like 2000 years ago holding
>>>>>>gladiator events that discommode only one country, Rome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MH
>>>>>
>>>>>of course it works, and you just invite the next follow up cheapo ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>2000 years ago the romans were perhaps not aware that there was much more to the
>>>>>world than rome. sometimes one gets the feeling that the US citizens are no
>>>>>different in this respect...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok, how about holding a world chess championship that only inconviences
>>>>Russians.
>>>>
>>>>I think you get the idea.  :)
>>>>
>>>>MH
>>>
>>>of course i get the idea! i put a disclaimer on my first post stating clearly
>>>that IMO the championship should be held in the US from time to time, and i
>>>labelled my posts as cheapos :-)
>>>i thought that made it clear enough...
>>>
>>>going back to your comparison with the russians: exactly how many american
>>>programs are in the top 10 of the SSDF list? hint: less than russians in the top
>>>10 of the FIDE list!
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>  martin
>>
>>You're missing the point of the events completely.  You don't have to write a
>>program that is in "the top 10 of the SSDF list" to be interested in computer
>>chess and support computer chess in general.  If that were the point of the
>>event, they would require that ranking to join.
>>
>>-elc.
>
>sheesh!
>
>if anyone is missing a point here it's you! why don't you read the post
>completely before crying wolf?
>
>matthew suggested that holding a CC world championship without US participation
>is about like playing a human chess world championship without russians.
>
>that statement is totally wrong. there is simply not a single US program which
>is anywhere near the top of computer chess, period. 5 russians are in the top 10
>humans, and they are on number one and two. so i challenged his opinion... am i
>right or am i right with that? if i happen to be wrong then correct me. but
>don't come with something that has nothing to do with my original post!

>
>i NEVER said you needed to be good to play in the world championship. i said i
>was in favor of a championship in the US. i guess you missed that...
>
>if you guys just read what i write instead of reading what you think i wouldn't
>have to post this stuff...
>
>cheers
> martin



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