Author: Eugene Nalimov
Date: 17:07:24 11/20/03
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On November 20, 2003 at 19:21:56, Amir Ban wrote: >On November 20, 2003 at 11:00:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 20, 2003 at 10:57:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 2003 at 18:25:40, martin fierz wrote: >>>> >>>>sheesh! >>>> >>>>if anyone is missing a point here it's you! why don't you read the post >>>>completely before crying wolf? >>>> >>>>matthew suggested that holding a CC world championship without US participation >>>>is about like playing a human chess world championship without russians. >>>> >>>>that statement is totally wrong. there is simply not a single US program which >>>>is anywhere near the top of computer chess, period. >> >>That statement is _totally_ wrong. The WCCC is an "open hardware" event. >>If you take the top commercial programs running on a single CPU box, and >>Crafty running on a big Opteron box, I'd claim Crafty has at _least_ as good >>a chance of winning as any one-cpu program, and probably better chances. >> >>You are overlooking the major difference between the WMCCC event and the >>WCCC event. Hardware is a _big_ part of the WCCC when the _right_ programs >>participate. >> > >There is no WMCCC any more. The one in 2000 was the last one. > >I guess if Crafty were given knight odds it would also have a fair chance at >winning, but what exactly does that prove ? Probably it proves that there is more than one way to write the computer-world-champion level chess program. You can focus your efforts on evaluation. Or on search. Or on parallelizing the program. Or on pruning. Or even on distributing the work across the whole cluster. Thanks, Eugene >Amir > > >> >>> 5 russians are in the top 10 >>>>humans, and they are on number one and two. so i challenged his opinion... am i >>>>right or am i right with that? if i happen to be wrong then correct me. but >>>>don't come with something that has nothing to do with my original post! >>> >>>> >>>>i NEVER said you needed to be good to play in the world championship. i said i >>>>was in favor of a championship in the US. i guess you missed that... >>>> >>>>if you guys just read what i write instead of reading what you think i wouldn't >>>>have to post this stuff... >>>> >>>>cheers >>>> martin
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