Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:09:53 11/20/03
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On November 20, 2003 at 18:44:18, martin fierz wrote: >On November 20, 2003 at 11:00:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 20, 2003 at 10:57:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 2003 at 18:25:40, martin fierz wrote: >>>> >>>>sheesh! >>>> >>>>if anyone is missing a point here it's you! why don't you read the post >>>>completely before crying wolf? >>>> >>>>matthew suggested that holding a CC world championship without US participation >>>>is about like playing a human chess world championship without russians. >>>> >>>>that statement is totally wrong. there is simply not a single US program which >>>>is anywhere near the top of computer chess, period. >> >>That statement is _totally_ wrong. The WCCC is an "open hardware" event. >>If you take the top commercial programs running on a single CPU box, and >>Crafty running on a big Opteron box, I'd claim Crafty has at _least_ as good >>a chance of winning as any one-cpu program, and probably better chances. > >so? in what way does that make my statement wrong? . > >of course, if you give one of those american programs a huge hardware advantage, >then it has it's chance - that is pretty clear! I don't believe that Crafty on _big_ hardware would "just have a chance". It would have at least as good a chance as _any_ other competitor. > >if i ran my rather weak program on a box which is 1000x faster than yours you >would lose. does this make me proud? does this make my program better than >yours?? go figure... If you spend the time making your program work on that hardware, it would mean something, yes... >i talked about *programs*. not about the combination of hardware+software. i >don't know why you do it, but you seem to deliberately misunderstand any >sentence i write ;-) It is a moot point. These tournaments are not "programs" playing "programs" they are computer+program playing computer+program. In the WCCC events, "computer" can contribute as much or more as "program" does... There will _never_ be a program vs program event held... > >cheers > martin
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