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Subject: Re: Three Positions

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 01:44:01 11/21/03

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On November 20, 2003 at 17:41:58, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On November 20, 2003 at 16:07:56, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2003 at 15:20:59, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>Three Positions, one is mate in 13 (Shredder - IsiChess WMCCC02).
>>>Any static eval or king safety heuristic to choose the best one for white if
>>>leaf nodes ;-) ?
>>>
>>>[D] 2k5/8/4r2p/3p1Qp1/8/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w - -
>>>[D] 2k5/8/3pr2p/5Qp1/8/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w - -
>>>[D] 2k5/3p4/4r2p/5Qp1/8/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w - -
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Gerd
>>
>>Chessmaster 9000 evaluates the first and third one as draws in brief analysis.
>>The second one gets a Mate in 13 announcement in one second on a P4-2.4....
>>
>>jm
>
>IsiChess takes 7 seconds more to find the mate in 13 (Athlon XP 2.6++).
>
>I am more interested in static eval scores of the three positions ;-)
>
>King safety and passed pawn eval, huge volatility, at least some static pattern
>to trigger checks in quiescence. But i guess only Johan knows...
>
>Ok, there are no defending black rook controls in front the king, two ranks
>below, to ward off possible checks. But that's obviously not enaugh, there must
>be at least one double defending control on that file (pawn-rook c6, or
>pawn-queen c4) between king and possible check targets on that file (c1,c2).
>
>[D] 2k5/8/4r2p/5Qp1/3p4/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w - -
>[D] 2k5/8/4r2p/5Qp1/8/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w - -
>
>It's even interesting to rotate the initial mate in 13 position with pawn on d6
>horizontally and to look for some attack and defence pattern. Not in the sense
>to give decisive eval scores like static mate evaluator of course. But the
>abilty to more or less "safely" ward off possible sliding checks should probably
>increase the already "penalized" safety of the black king.
>
>Gerd

Isn't the second position a mate in 6?
[D] 2k5/8/4r2p/5Qp1/8/6P1/3pqP1P/R5K1 w
kind regards
Bernhard



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