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Subject: Re: Three Positions

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 05:26:56 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 07:24:34, martin fierz wrote:

>On November 20, 2003 at 15:20:59, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>Three Positions, one is mate in 13 (Shredder - IsiChess WMCCC02).
>>Any static eval or king safety heuristic to choose the best one for white if
>>leaf nodes ;-) ?
>
>i can tell you what i think when i get to see such a position in a game: this is
>one where you can't rely on your feelings (=static evaluation), but have to
>calculate! so basically i think the answer to your question is that no static
>eval can catch this one.

Hi Martin,

yes, this is absolutely true in the sense to decide whether this is a won, drawn
or lost position. Anyway, double defending controls on check trajectories is
probably one heuristic fact to consider.

>not very helpful i know... if anything, my gut feeling likes the position with
>the pawn on d7 best, because you still have some kind of king shelter. that
>would probably be a sensible rule if you are looking for one: keeping a pawn on
>the seventh is good for your king.
>as for the difference between position 2 and 3, that's just what we
>german-speaking guys call "stellungsglück".

Yes, but in (3) there is a safe c2-c8 trajectory break via Qc4, protected by d5.

Cheers,
Gerd

>
>cheers
>  martin
>
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