Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 08:52:32 11/21/03
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On November 21, 2003 at 11:48:30, Bob Durrett wrote: >On November 21, 2003 at 03:26:41, Mig Greengard wrote: > >>Had a long, fascinating session with Garry on Wednesday. He went over all the >>games and talked deep and wide about computer chess and his matches. It was all >>video-recorded for future display as a Playchess.com multimedia segment. Some of >>it is recapped in the article I just put up here: >> >>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1313 >> >>More will go up in text later. From a chess perspective my suspicions during the >>game were confirmed when he said that he had analyzed just about all of game >>four a few years ago when looking at that QGA line. He mostly spent his time >>double-checking things to see if the Fritz team had found something nasty >>somewhere. That one of his former analysts, Kharlov, had played that game up to >>move 18 in 2001 was a tip-off. The position was already equal by that point. >> >>Probably of more interest to you all is Kasparov's interest in computer-computer >>games beyond simply preparing for a specific opponent. That part I recap in the >>article linked to above. I'm seeing him again before he leaves Sunday so if you >>have an interesting, (non-flame) question for him on comp chess I'll be happy to >>put it to him (and take credit for it myself of course). > >My biggest concern is that the beginning of the game was NOT a match between >Kasparov and a chess engine. While Fritz is "in book," Kasparov is, in effect, >playing against human opponents who have had infinite time to create a >formidable anti-Kasparov opening book. > >The part that should interest chess computer people is whether or not it is >possible to put together an anti-Fritz book which would put Fritz into early >middlegame positions which would be disadvantageous to Fritz. > >Maybe the sponsors should fund a team of anti-Fritz book makers to work with >Kasparov many months in advance of the games to prepare this anti-Fritz book. > >Then the first part of each game would be a competition between the >anti-Kasparov book-making team and the anti-Kasparov book-making team. >Unfortunately, the public might not understand. > >It seems unfair that Kasparov should have to rely on his memory of a vastly huge >opening book. He should have access to his notes [on a computer] during that >phase of the game when Fritz is still "in book." Maybe then he would play 1.e4. > >The objective of the competition in the "in-book" phase should be to see if it >is possible to force the game into early middlegame positions unfavorable to the >opponent. > >After Fritz is out of it's opening book, Kasparov should be required to close >his book too and then the real competition could begin. > >I'm not sure what to do about endgame tablebases, but the situation seems >similar to me. > >Bob D. Please forgive my typos due to haste. Opening should be a competition between anti-kasparov and anti-Fritz opening book makers. Kasparov at the helm of the anti-Fritz, of course. Bob D.
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