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Subject: Re: How Many Plies Search To Reach 3600 Elo, Please?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 10:40:17 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 11:25:20, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On November 21, 2003 at 08:50:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>You might have a look at this page:
>>
>>http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
>
>I wonder, if this is accurate. I read:
>
>---
>Subsequent statistical tests have shown that chess performance is almost
>certainly not normally distributed. Weaker players have significantly greater
>winning chances than Elo's model predicts. Therefore, both the USCF and FIDE
>have switched to systems based on the logistic distribution. However, in
>deference to Elo's contribution, both organizations are still commonly said to
>use "the Elo system".
>---
>
>With the logistic distribution, the formula is
>
>p =  1/(1+10^(-dp/400)) [1]
>
>while for the normal distribution it would be
>
>p = 0.5+0.5*erf(dp/400) [2]
>
>erf=error function, dp is the rating difference. When I now look at the
>(seemingly official?) table at
>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0210 I see:
>
>p     dp   using [1]  using [2]
>0.99  677  0.9801     0.9917
>0.98  589  0.9674     0.9813
>[First 2 columns from the link]
>
>So, using formula [1] gives a p, that is outside the rounding range, while using
>[2] it actually gives the number given in the table at FIDE to the given
>precision. Still, I have some doubt, because a better number dp for 0.99 would
>be 658, yielding in p=0.9900009 with [2].
>
>>You can only calculate expected scores between two rated players if the
>>difference is not higher than 400 points.
>
>Why? Formally you can certainly calculate expected scores for a higher range.
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

Yes formally, but are the results still a good approximation?

Michael





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