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Subject: Re: Test Position:Extremely Hard:Avoid 15..hxg5(Takes over 19 hours forCM)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:20:37 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 17:18:46, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On November 21, 2003 at 17:13:49, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>In the following interesting position it takes over 19 hours for Chessmaster
>>9000 (default)on my 1.8 gig computer to avoid 15..hxg5 and choose 15..Rac8.
>>It is my guess that Fritz and Junior will not solve this.
>>[D]r2r2k1/ppq1bpp1/2bppn1p/6B1/3NPP1P/2N5/PPPQ2P1/1K1RR3 b
>>Analysis by Chessmaster 9000(default Personality):
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:02	1/9	-1.38	356913		15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Ne8 17.g6 Bf6
>>					18.Ncb5 Qd7 19.Nxc6 bxc6 20.gxf7+
>>					Qxf7
>>0:07	1/10	-1.23	1021400		15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Nd7 17.g6 Nc5
>>					18.gxf7+ Kxf7 19.f5 e5 20.Nxc6
>>					bxc6 21.Qe2
>>0:28	2/11	-1.13	3883272		15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Nh7 17.g6 Nf6
>>					18.gxf7+ Kxf7 19.f5 exf5 20.exf5
>>					Kg8 21.Qe2 Re8
>>1:03	3/12	-1.08	9118689		15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Ne8 17.Qe3 g6
>>					18.Qh3 Bf8 19.f5 exf5 20.exf5 Bg7
>>					21.Nxc6 bxc6 22.fxg6 fxg6
>>2:53	4/13	-0.81	26353616	15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Ne8 17.Rh1 g6
>>					18.Qd3 Bf8 19.f5 exf5 20.exf5 Bg7
>>					21.fxg6 Bxg2 22.Rh7
>>9:47	5/14	-0.59	96074807	15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Ne8 17.Rh1 g6
>>					18.f5 exf5 19.exf5 Qa5 20.Nxc6
>>					bxc6 21.fxg6 fxg6 22.Qd4 Ng7 23.Qc4+
>>					d5 24.Qxc6
>>41:24	6/15	-0.19	431783244	15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Ne8 17.Rh1 g6
>>					18.f5 exf5 19.exf5 Qa5 20.Nxc6
>>					bxc6 21.Qd4 Qe5 22.Qh4 Kf8 23.f6
>>					Bxf6 24.gxf6 Nxf6
>>9:17:20	7/16	0.20	1564966390	15...hxg5 16.hxg5 Nxe4 17.Nxe4
>>					Bxe4 18.Rxe4 d5 19.Ree1 g6 20.g4
>>					Rac8 21.Rh1 Bf8 22.f5 Re8 23.fxg6
>>					fxg6 24.Qd3 Qg7 25.Qe3
>>19:06:13	7/16	-0.29	3080132679	15...Rac8 16.g4 Nxg4 17.Rg1 h5
>>					18.Rdf1 Bxg5 19.hxg5 e5 20.Nxc6
>>					bxc6 21.Rh1 exf4 22.Qxf4 Ne5 23.Rxh5
>>					Qa5
>>Please indicate your result.
>
>
>950 MHz Athlon:
>
>E:\crafty>Crafty-Smp-1905.exe
>
>Initializing multiple threads.
>System is SMP, not NUMA.
>EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
>unable to open book file [./book.bin].
>book is disabled
>unable to open book file [./books.bin].
>hash table memory =  192M bytes.
>pawn hash table memory =   12M bytes.
>EGTB cache memory =   64M bytes.
>draw score set to    0.00 pawns.
>book file enabled.
>choose from book moves randomly (using weights.)
>choose from 5 best moves.
>book learning enabled
>result learning enabled
>position learning enabled
>threshold set to 9 pawns.
>0 piece tablebase files found
>EGTB access enabled
>using tbpath=e:\crafty\release\tb
>0 piece tablebase files found
>
>Crafty v19.5 (1 cpus)
>
>White(1): hash 256M
>hash table memory =  192M bytes.
>White(1): epdpfga \rac8.epd rac8.out
>PFGA: EPD record: 1
>middle-game phase
>              trojan check enabled
>              clearing hash tables
>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 22.50 (3:30)
>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>                5     0.33   0.28   1. ... d5 2. e5 Ne4 3. Nxe4 dxe4 4.
>                                    Bxe7 Qxe7 5. Nxc6 bxc6
>                5->   0.40   0.28   1. ... d5 2. e5 Ne4 3. Nxe4 dxe4 4.
>                                    Bxe7 Qxe7 5. Nxc6 bxc6
>                6     0.81   0.52   1. ... d5 2. exd5 Nxd5 3. Nxc6 bxc6
>                                    4. Bxe7 Qxe7 5. h5 Nxc3+ 6. Qxc3 Rxd1+
>                                    7. Rxd1
>                6     0.98   0.25   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    g4 Qc4
>                6->   1.28   0.25   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    g4 Qc4
>                7     1.54   0.37   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    Qf2 Qc5 5. Qg3
>                7->   2.66   0.37   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    Qf2 Qc5 5. Qg3
>                8     3.58   0.31   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    Qf2 a6 5. Qg3 b5
>                8->   5.83   0.31   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 Qxc6 4.
>                                    Qf2 a6 5. Qg3 b5
>                9     8.28   0.43   1. ... Rac8 2. f5 e5 3. Nxc6 bxc6 4.
>                                    Qf2 Qb7 5. Qg3 Rb8 6. b3
>                9    18.95   0.42   1. ... d5 2. e5 Ne4 3. Nxe4 dxe4 4.
>                                    Qe2 Bxg5 5. hxg5 Rac8 6. g6 Bd5 7.
>                                    gxf7+ Kxf7
>              time=22.52  cpu=96%  mat=0  n=9918544  fh=86%  nps=440k
>              ext-> chk=45535 cap=33588 pp=2724 1rep=3909 mate=40
>              predicted=0  nodes=9918544  evals=3742770
>              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
>              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/4096  cpu=21.67  elap=22.52

It is known that Crafty does not take in g5 even in case that it is a good idea.
It is not because of seeing the tactic.

Uri



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