Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:56:46 11/21/03
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On November 21, 2003 at 03:23:32, martin fierz wrote: >On November 20, 2003 at 20:08:23, Russell Reagan wrote: > >>No one is misunderstanding what you are writing. Maybe you aren't saying what >>you are meaning to say, but what you're saying isn't correct. You say that the >>US doesn't have any programs that could contend for the WCCC title, which is >>clearly false as Bob has shown. >> >>For some reason you want to seperate software and hardware, and that isn't the >>reality of the WCCC, which is what we are discussing here. > >hey russell, > >at least you take the time to make yourself clear. i realize i should have done >more of that too :-( > >so, let me update my statement to 1.1: > >"if there were a computer chess championship where all the best programs showed >up, and the participants were running on similar hardware (i.e. nobody having >more than twice the computing power of anybody else), then no US-american >program would have a good chance of winning the event" Why do you discount Ferret, first? It has _clearly_ proven it can compete with _anybody_, commercial or amateur, without needing a hardware edge. See every WMCCC event it has played in. What about Wchess? What about MchessPro? Zarkov. And only a fool discounts Crafty. In a short Swiss _anything_ can happen. > >obviously that is not what the WCCC rules are like, and i am fully aware of >that. but it's the only thing i'm interested in. Your question is fine. But it has _nothing_ to do with the discussion about the WCCC event and lack of North American participation. > >to make things more clear: we have the hardware, the software and the >combination of both. for me the following are synonyms: > >hardware: machine, computer >software: program >hardware+software combination: participant, entrant > >you know i am not a native english speaker - so correct me if my understanding >of english is limited! i was talking about *programs* and, according to my >synonym list, i was talking about the software alone. and to make matters clear, I think you will find it very difficult to win a single game with "software alone" which I think was everybody's point here... >i have now added v 1.1 of my statement. > >i guess we all should get back to work on our programs instead of keeping this >senseless discussion alive :-) > >cheers > martin
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