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Subject: Re: Junior - Crafty NPS Challenge - a user experiment

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 15:05:55 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 16:47:52, Peter Berger wrote:

>Following recent heated discussions I'd love to do a little testmatch. There are
>different versions of the challenge online - I chose one that I can kind of
>simulate myself with slower hardware.
>
>Junior 8.0.0.2 will play on a P233MMX, 32 MB RAM.
>Crafty 19.4 will play on a PIV2.0GHz notebook, 1GHz RAM.
>
>Time control will be game in 2 hours with 10 seconds increment/move. The match
>will be done like older FIDE world championship matches - the first one to win 6
>games wins the match, draws won't count.
>
>Junior uses 16MB Hash, 3+4 men tablebases, 1MB cache, junior8.ctg.
>Crafty uses 384MB Hash, 64MB hashp, 3+4 men tablebases, 32MB cache, own book,
>aware of playing a computer.
>
>Compairing setups with Crafty bench (hash 12M, hashp 3M, cache 1M on the slower
>one) suggests a speed difference factor of about 10.5 in raw nodes per seconds
>and 11.0 in "SMP time to-ply-measurement" between the two computers.
>As the Junior Mark doesn't work on the slower one and Junior chooses to search
>different depths on both in the starting position, I can't really give a number.
>The difference seems to be slightly lower for Junior though, sth like 9.0 maybe.
>
>Saying that the faster computer is about 10 times faster shouldn't be too wrong.
>
>That's also clearly an upper-bound for faster hardware Crafty could reasonably
>come up to compete with against a single-CPU opponent in a current competition
>on fast computers IMHO - the speedup demands 16 CPUs I guess, and I don't know
>if Crafty can really scale that well.
>
>With this setup Crafty should be the clear favourite I suppose.
>
>Crafty won the toss and will have the white pieces in the first game.
>
>Peter


nice test indeed. I think crafty will win.

regards Joachim



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