Author: Will Singleton
Date: 16:11:41 11/21/03
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On November 21, 2003 at 18:24:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 21, 2003 at 18:05:55, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On November 21, 2003 at 16:47:52, Peter Berger wrote: >> >>>Following recent heated discussions I'd love to do a little testmatch. There are >>>different versions of the challenge online - I chose one that I can kind of >>>simulate myself with slower hardware. >>> >>>Junior 8.0.0.2 will play on a P233MMX, 32 MB RAM. >>>Crafty 19.4 will play on a PIV2.0GHz notebook, 1GHz RAM. >>> >>>Time control will be game in 2 hours with 10 seconds increment/move. The match >>>will be done like older FIDE world championship matches - the first one to win 6 >>>games wins the match, draws won't count. >>> >>>Junior uses 16MB Hash, 3+4 men tablebases, 1MB cache, junior8.ctg. >>>Crafty uses 384MB Hash, 64MB hashp, 3+4 men tablebases, 32MB cache, own book, >>>aware of playing a computer. >>> >>>Compairing setups with Crafty bench (hash 12M, hashp 3M, cache 1M on the slower >>>one) suggests a speed difference factor of about 10.5 in raw nodes per seconds >>>and 11.0 in "SMP time to-ply-measurement" between the two computers. >>>As the Junior Mark doesn't work on the slower one and Junior chooses to search >>>different depths on both in the starting position, I can't really give a number. >>>The difference seems to be slightly lower for Junior though, sth like 9.0 maybe. >>> >>>Saying that the faster computer is about 10 times faster shouldn't be too wrong. >>> >>>That's also clearly an upper-bound for faster hardware Crafty could reasonably >>>come up to compete with against a single-CPU opponent in a current competition >>>on fast computers IMHO - the speedup demands 16 CPUs I guess, and I don't know >>>if Crafty can really scale that well. >>> >>>With this setup Crafty should be the clear favourite I suppose. >>> >>>Crafty won the toss and will have the white pieces in the first game. >>> >>>Peter >> >> >>nice test indeed. I think crafty will win. >> >>regards Joachim > >If it loses I should obviously retire from computer chess due to gross >incompetence. You already have two people (above) who think Junior has a chance to win, so I suppose you should at least start checking the social security balance. Me, I think Crafty will win easily, perhaps 6-0 (not counting draws). Will ps Nice of Peter to arrange this match, promises to be diverting. Any chance of a live feed using Tom's viewer?
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