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Subject: Re: PowerMac G5 second take

Author: Steven Edwards

Date: 18:02:47 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 19:51:10, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On November 21, 2003 at 19:33:33, Andreas Guettinger wrote:

>As is well known, if you are doing video processing, the Power Mac is a
>top-flite, somewhat overpriced machine.  And darn good looking too.

The PPC with Altivec (G4s and G5s) is rather good with audio processing as well
and that's what I use to rip my CD collection.  As of a few weeks ago, Apple no
longer sells the G3 CPU that lacks Altivec.

It may be that the 128 thirty-two bit registers of an Altivec unit could be
quite useful as a register cache in a chess program.  It's exactly the amout of
space neede to store either an AttackFrom[64] or an AttackTo[64] bitboard array.

Are Macs expensive?  Yes.  Are Macs overpriced?  The short answer is: probably,
but not by much for equivalently equipped competing machines.  The long answer
(for programmers) has a lot to do with ease of use (hands down winner), freely
avaliable development tools (Xcode from Apple, the entire GNU toolset, the X
Window toolset, etc.), and longevity.

I have used Microsoft's various development toolchains starting back from the
late 1970s and continuing to the current Visual Studio suite.  But now only when
people pay me to do it; I haven't used any MS tools for my own projects since
1987.  Apple's Xcode IDE with its new zerolink feature and automated distributed
builds is the way to go, at least for now.

For the area of longevity, I'm typing this on my oldest G4 Mac, a 400 MHz dektop
model that came out four years ago.  It runs 24*7 doing chess and Seti work
while remaining nearly problem-free.  In fact, the only difficulty I have is
rebooting after the occasional brief power failure; I need to let the machine
stay turned off for 30 seconds or so before restarting -- perhaps the original
power supply with over 30,000 in-use hours is getting ready for a permanent
vacation.




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