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Subject: Re: Junior - Crafty NPS Challenge - a user experiment (more)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:00:42 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 23:58:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:


OK.  I see your point.  I thought that was something I might have
said years ago.  But it was Amir.  When I originally tried to look,
the link failed.  Later it worked and I found the context...

Bob



>On November 21, 2003 at 22:37:40, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>Guess who said these words in early 1997:
>>
>>--
>>Of course a Rebelx100 - Rebel match or Craftyx100 - Crafty match won't
>>prove a thing. The x100 program will win big. Doesn't have anything to
>>do with the evaluation-NPS debate.
>>--
>>
>>Here is a link (recombine URL).
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1926445472d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_drrb=b&as_mind=29&as_minm=3&as_miny=1995&as_maxd=28&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=1997&selm=333A4938.6F17%40msys.co.il
>>
>>I found it quite amusing, given the current attitude from the person who posted
>>that message.
>
>
>I'm not sure what your point is.  I think the above is perfectly clear in
>its meaning.  All else being the same, search depth clearly makes a program
>better.
>
>However, the context was "is faster better?" when comparing deep blue to
>the micros.  That's where the "thread" started, if you notice...
>
>I have _always_ been consistent here.  In some cases, knowledge certainly
>replaces depth.  See the trojan horse thread near the top.  But that only
>covers so much.  _not_ a 100:1 which was the speed difference we discussed
>with the deep blue vs micros back in 1996 and 1997...



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