Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:55:25 11/22/03
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On November 22, 2003 at 15:39:49, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 22, 2003 at 14:24:24, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On November 22, 2003 at 13:20:46, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On November 22, 2003 at 13:16:06, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On November 22, 2003 at 11:44:42, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 22, 2003 at 10:09:59, swaminathan natarajan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>why not Brutus,Fritz? >>>>>> >>>>>>what happened to Diep last month at leiden? >>>>> >>>>>Last month Diep wasn't running on a super computer. >>>> >>>> >>>>Quark will take care of Diep super Computer, it takes more than calcucation to >>>>be a strong program :-) >>>> >>>>My prediction is Fritz >>> >>>Unfortunately now it seems that quark is in problems. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Why unfortunately? > >Because I hoped for better result for quark > >I believed during the game that it has a better position. > >Bd6 is also suggested by yace in analysis mode and there are other moves with >positive score. > >Quark probably needs more time to play Bd6 because it is more optimistic for >Re8. > > >[D]3q1N1k/pp3Qp1/2p2p2/3p1P1p/1P1P2b1/P3r1b1/6P1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Yace Paderborn: > >30...Qxf8 31.Qxf8+ Kh7 > +- (5.89) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >30...Bxf5 31.Rxf5 > +- (2.25) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >30...Be2 > ³ (-0.62) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >30...Re2 > µ (-0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >30...Re2 > µ (-0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >30...Re2 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 > ³ (-0.41) Depth: 2 00:00:00 >30...Re2 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 > ³ (-0.41) Depth: 2 00:00:00 >30...Re2 31.Ne6 Rxe6 32.fxe6 > = (0.11) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Re2 31.Ne6 Qg8 32.Qxb7 > ² (0.39) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Be2 31.Qg6 > ² (0.38) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Be2 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh8 33.Ng6+ Kh7 34.Qxb7 Bxf1 > = (0.00) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 > = (-0.02) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 > = (-0.02) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Ne6 > = (-0.04) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 > ³ (-0.32) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 > ³ (-0.32) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 > ³ (-0.43) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 > ³ (-0.43) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Qe7 34.Ng6 > ³ (-0.34) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Qe7 34.Ng6 > ³ (-0.34) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh8 > = (0.00) Depth: 6/21 00:00:01 78kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh8 > = (0.00) Depth: 6/21 00:00:01 198kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh8 > = (0.00) Depth: 7/21 00:00:01 291kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxa7 Qxa7 34.Nf4 > = (-0.01) Depth: 7/23 00:00:01 378kN >30...Re8 31.Ne6 Qe7 32.Qg6 Rc8 33.Rac1 Kg8 > = (-0.05) Depth: 7/23 00:00:02 555kN >30...Re8 31.Ne6 Qe7 32.Qg6 Rc8 33.Rac1 Kg8 > = (-0.05) Depth: 7/23 00:00:03 818kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 > = (-0.04) Depth: 8/25 00:00:04 1534kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Qh8+ Kg5 35.Ne6+ Kh4 36.Qxg7 Rxg7 >37.Nxg7 > = (-0.05) Depth: 8/25 00:00:05 1723kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Qh8+ Kg5 35.Ne6+ Kh4 36.Qxe8 Rxe8 >37.Nxg7 Re2 > = (-0.15) Depth: 8/25 00:00:05 1792kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Qh8+ Kg5 35.Ne6+ Kh4 36.Qxe8 Rxe8 >37.Nxg7 Re2 > = (-0.15) Depth: 8/25 00:00:07 2342kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Kh1 Be2 35.Qh8+ Kg5 36.Ne6+ Kh4 >37.Qxe8 Rxe8 38.Nxg7 > = (0.00) Depth: 9/31 00:00:08 3001kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Rb1 > = (-0.01) Depth: 9/31 00:00:09 3545kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Bf4 > = (-0.07) Depth: 9/31 00:00:11 3967kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Bf4 > = (-0.07) Depth: 9/31 00:00:14 5156kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 h4 >37.Qd3+ Kh5 38.Qh7+ Kg5 > = (0.08) Depth: 10/31 00:00:18 6889kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Kh1 Be2 35.Qh8+ Kg5 36.Ne6+ Kh4 >37.Qxe8 Rxe8 38.Nd8 > = (0.07) Depth: 10/31 00:00:20 7962kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Kh1 a6 35.Qh8+ Kg5 36.Ne6+ Kh4 >37.Qxe8 Rxe8 38.Nxg7 > = (-0.14) Depth: 10/31 00:00:24 9673kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Kh1 a6 35.Qh8+ Kg5 36.Ne6+ Kh4 >37.Qxe8 Rxe8 38.Nxg7 > = (-0.14) Depth: 10/31 00:00:31 12549kN >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re7 34.Rab1 Kg5 35.Rb3 Bd6 36.Ne6+ Kh6 >37.Qxe8 Rxe8 38.Re3 > = (-0.20) Depth: 11/39 00:00:50 19295kN >30...Bd6 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qe8 33.Qxa7 Re2 34.Kh1 Qe4 35.Nf4 Bxf4 36.Qa4 > = (-0.21) Depth: 11/39 00:01:45 40294kN >30...Bd6 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qe8 33.Nf4 Bxf4 34.Rxf4 Re2 35.Kh1 Qe3 36.Rxg4 hxg4 >37.Qxa7 > = (-0.24) Depth: 11/39 00:02:04 47227kN > >(Blass, Tel-Aviv 22.11.2003) > > >3q1N1k/pp3Qp1/2p2p2/3p1P1p/1P1P2b1/P3r1b1/6P1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Quark: > >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re2 > ³ (-0.70) Depth: 4 00:00:01 >30...Qe8 > ³ (-0.39) Depth: 5 00:00:01 >30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Qe7 34.Qh7+ > = (-0.21) Depth: 5 00:00:01 >30...Re8 > = (-0.22) Depth: 5 00:00:01 >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 > ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:01 >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 > ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:01 >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 74kN >30...Qe8 > ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:01 83kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 86kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 152kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 7 00:00:01 208kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 7 00:00:02 334kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 35.Nxd5 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 8 00:00:02 471kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 35.Nxd5 > ³ (-0.46) Depth: 8 00:00:03 702kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Kh6 35.Rac1 Kg5 > ³ (-0.26) Depth: 9 00:00:04 976kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Kh6 35.Rac1 Kg5 > ³ (-0.26) Depth: 9 00:00:06 1859kN >30...Re8 > ³ (-0.56) Depth: 10 00:00:09 2844kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 34.Rf3 Qc7 35.Qa6 Kf7 36.Qd3 > µ (-0.90) Depth: 10 00:00:19 5825kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 34.Rf3 Qc7 35.Qa6 Kf7 36.Qd3 > µ (-0.90) Depth: 10 00:00:21 6645kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Kf7 >37.Qd3 > ³ (-0.62) Depth: 11 00:00:26 8481kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Kf7 >37.Qd3 > ³ (-0.62) Depth: 11 00:00:47 15892kN >30...Re8 > ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:00:56 18998kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Re1 > ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:01:04 21759kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Re1 > ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:01:42 34323kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Qd3+ g6 39.Re1 > ³ (-0.29) Depth: 13 00:02:42 55654kN >30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 >Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Qd3+ g6 39.Re1 > ³ (-0.29) Depth: 13 00:04:18 87230kN > >(Blass, Tel-Aviv 22.11.2003) > > >> >>If you don't want to draw a supercomputer and prefer a lost endgame instead you >>do not deserve better. > >I guess that Quark evaluated the endgame as better for black. > >Uri I continued the analysis with Quark and it seems that quark2.05 needs more than an hour on my hardware to find 30...Bd6 It also had a long time to ponder during the game so it is possible that it found it during pondering. [D]3q1N1k/pp3Qp1/2p2p2/3p1P1p/1P1P2b1/P3r1b1/6P1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Quark: 30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Re2 ³ (-0.70) Depth: 4 00:00:01 30...Qe8 ³ (-0.39) Depth: 5 00:00:01 30...Qe8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Nf8+ Kh6 33.Qg8 Qe7 34.Qh7+ = (-0.21) Depth: 5 00:00:01 30...Re8 = (-0.22) Depth: 5 00:00:01 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:01 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:01 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 74kN 30...Qe8 ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:01 83kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 86kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 6 00:00:01 152kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 7 00:00:01 208kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 7 00:00:02 334kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 35.Nxd5 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 8 00:00:02 471kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Bxf5 35.Nxd5 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 8 00:00:03 702kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Kh6 35.Rac1 Kg5 ³ (-0.26) Depth: 9 00:00:04 976kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Kh6 35.Rac1 Kg5 ³ (-0.26) Depth: 9 00:00:06 1859kN 30...Re8 ³ (-0.56) Depth: 10 00:00:09 2844kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 34.Rf3 Qc7 35.Qa6 Kf7 36.Qd3 µ (-0.90) Depth: 10 00:00:19 5825kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Rxf5 Kxg6 34.Rf3 Qc7 35.Qa6 Kf7 36.Qd3 µ (-0.90) Depth: 10 00:00:21 6645kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Kf7 37.Qd3 ³ (-0.62) Depth: 11 00:00:26 8481kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Kf7 37.Qd3 ³ (-0.62) Depth: 11 00:00:47 15892kN 30...Re8 ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:00:56 18998kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Re1 ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:01:04 21759kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Re1 ³ (-0.32) Depth: 12 00:01:42 34323kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Qd3+ g6 39.Re1 ³ (-0.29) Depth: 13 00:02:42 55654kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Bxf5 33.Nf8+ Rxf8 34.Rxf5 Kg6 35.Rf3 Qc7 36.Qa6 Bh2+ 37.Kh1 Kh7 38.Qd3+ g6 39.Re1 ³ (-0.29) Depth: 13 00:04:18 87230kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Re4 35.Ne6 g6 36.Nf8+ Kg7 37.Nxg6 Rxd4 38.Ne7 c5 = (-0.18) Depth: 14 00:09:08 177812kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 Re4 35.Ne6 g6 36.Nf8+ Kg7 37.Nxg6 Rxd4 38.Ne7 c5 = (-0.18) Depth: 14 00:16:26 311769kN 30...Re8 31.Ng6+ Kh7 32.Qxb7 Qb6 33.Qxb6 axb6 34.Nf4 h4 35.Ne6 g6 36.fxg6+ Kxg6 37.Nf4+ Kf7 38.Rac1 Re4 39.Nh3 Be2 40.Rxc6 ³ (-0.41) Depth: 15 00:29:21 553385kN 30...Bd6 ³ (-0.42) Depth: 15 01:16:12 1317337kN (Blass, Tel-Aviv 23.11.2003) Uri
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