Author: Mark Young
Date: 19:54:41 11/14/98
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On November 14, 1998 at 19:23:50, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On November 14, 1998 at 11:11:24, Mark Young wrote: > >>It is clear that you don't think it is a bug in the autoplayer, > >right. the bug is in for months and has passed all testers. even the experienced >ones. it passed enrique , moritz and dirk. and all ssdf-testers ? >nobody has recognized ? only one little sentence that rebel is not saving the >games and not learning. and nobody found this strange ? > >if we all can reproduce each single game, but we don't have the same results, >there must be a hidden parameter. if fritz/junior5 (whatever engine) is enabling >the learning stuff of the opponent, than there is at least ONE hidden parameter >found. because this DOES influence results. >try it out, put genius against genius, and enable learning on ONE machine. and >wait 30-50 games. and tell me the results. >than you see that it DOES effect. > >> or am I >>misreading your drift here. > >drift ? >i see maybe a bug. i wonder if this bug is also in the hidden autoplayer. >could be, or ? >this would explain different results. all manually played matches would get weak >results, all autoplayer-matches , especially with many many games against one >opponent would get much better results than fritz deserves. > > > >> So it sounds like to me your calling Amir a cheater >>for using the chessbase GUI. > >amir is not doing the GUI. don't you get this ? >amir has only send his engine to chessBase. he does not know what they do with >it. >where am i saying amir cheats ? >it is the engine X in the user-interface. if the user-interface is buggy, ANY >engine would make problems. > >how do you want to construct now that i call amir a cheater ? >imo you only want to make trouble here. you mix things. you claim things >i have never said and would never say, because i don't think it is amir who has >done that. >this was all done long before amir. > >> A bug is one thing, but it seems to me you are >>saying it is not a bug. > >a bug is a bug. but why it it in. why has nobody fixed it ? >is it in the fritz5 hidden autoplayer too ? >if so, why has nobody recognized ? they are all adults, or ? > > >> So I guess you have proof that it is not, > >do you have a problem ? >I have proof. my autoplayer is also not working. >isn't this proof enough. i would have never found out if they would not >have sold junior with the autoplayer. >all of us would maybe never have known HOW they did it. >and you still believe the fairy tale that nobody has an idea about all of this. >nobody wondered about. nobody was able to reproduce. nobody >had a suspicion.... > > >> Oh am sorry I >>forgot, you don't need proof. > >in opposite to you i try to find out about things. by doing. >and in opposite to you, i know when a battle is lost. >you still think you would come out of this without a lost game ? >or a draw ? > >you have defended a lost game. >and now it is lost, you still want me to draw with you, or to resign. >pah - >you will lose the next game too. >because this was only the beginning of the story. This is "only the beginning of the story". Thats what you said months ago, and you still can't get past the first page. You know nothing, except what others say. Then you make false claims in other peoples names as you did with Ed. You are not interested in any kind of facts, all you care about is attacking ChessBase, and you don't care who you have to hurt to achieve this aim. You want to make this attack into a game of Chess, by using chess terms, well let me remind you that chess is about truth. You can't lie in a game of chess, the position is laid bare for all to see.
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