Author: blass uri
Date: 01:51:09 11/15/98
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On November 15, 1998 at 04:23:39, Ed Schröder wrote: >On November 15, 1998 at 04:00:10, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On November 15, 1998 at 02:45:54, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>>Posted by Thorsten Czub on November 14, 1998 at 19:07:55: >>> >>>>>>Others (who have also bought junior5) have found out the same. >>> >>>>fact, these persons have posted here. >>> >>>>>>Ed claimed the same very early. >>> >>>>fact too. ed said that the fritz5 autoplayer stops rebel from learning, posted >>>>in old discussions months ago. >>>>i have not said that you claimed something about the junior autoplayer ed. >>>>i said you claimed the same, meaning you said that rebels learning was not >>>>working in your observation months before. but anybody oversaw this. >>> >>> >>>>>I claimed nothing. Junior5 even hasn't been installed on my autoplayers >>>>>so I can't know. >>> >>>>i have not said you claimed about junior. junior is only an engine in the fritz5 >>>>user interface. what happens to junior might have also happened to the secret >>>>chessbase fritz5 autoplayer. and you proofed this autoplayer, or ? >>>>you had a log-file of the data send from ONE to Other machine, or ? >>>>And there was nothing in the data. all clean. only that rebel was unable to >>>>learn. or ? I remember that this was said months ago. >>> >>> >>>You have your facts completely wrong Thorsten. >>> >>>Let me summarize.... >>> >>>#1. There were 3 people who had the F5 autoplayer (F5A) and they >>>sometimes passed information about the thing here in CCC. >>> >>>#2. One of them said: "F5A does not save opponent games". >>> >>>#3. I then reacted: >>> >>>a) This is horrible, it might influence the learner of opponents programs. >>>I was talking about ALL programs. >> >>The games of the ssdf list are public so I think that if it influence the >>learner of opponent programs then it can be proved. >> >>Uri > >This is an impossible job. It can only be done by special debug software >or at least watching the games live. In any case bare game scores mean >nothing in this particular case. > >- Ed - If the opponent is losing the same game twice then it can be proved because the moves of the games are in http://home.interact.se/~w100107/welcome.htm If the opponent is playing a line that is impossible to play if it used a learner then it can be proved. Uri
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