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Subject: Re: How do authors rate against their own programs? Share your wins!

Author: Oliver Y.

Date: 02:51:11 11/15/98

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On November 14, 1998 at 10:42:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 13, 1998 at 02:39:10, David Blackman wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 1998 at 19:36:02, Chris Moreton wrote:
>>
>>>I am the author of Rival chess which has a rating floating around 2000-2100 on
>>>the ICC while I feel good if I stay above 1000 for any length of time.  Is their
>>>anywhere I can find out how other authors rate against their own programs?
>>>
>>>-Chris
>>
>>I don't know of any authoratative source about this, but the short answer is
>>that most programmers would be completely smashed by their own programs, unless
>>they are quite new to chess programming and still have a very weak program.
>>
>>One possible exception is Peter McKenzie, author of LambChop, who posts here
>>occasionally. Peter is a former New Zealand champion, and although i don't think
>>he has a FIDE title, he could not be far below IM strength. Lambchop is a
>>reasonably strong program, especially for its positional play, but i think Peter
>>would have some chance against it if he played seriously.
>>
>>My own program, Desperado, is much stronger than i am, and it is definatly not
>>one of the strongest programs out there. (My Australian rating is 1504.
>>Desperado hasn't competed much against rated players recently but might be about
>>2000. An earlier version once managed to fluke a win against an IM.)
>
>
>I occasionally beat Crafty, at full strength, but it isn't exactly about
>"chess" when I do.  I have to (a) avoid a tactical mistake which is hard
>against crafty, (b) play into positions where I think it might not be able
>to whip up some sort of tactical activity, and (c) I use specific knowledge
>about what it does well and what it doesn't do well to help guide me.  I
>probably win around 1 of every 20 games I play, when the games are longer (ie
>not blitz) so I can try to avoid tactical mistakes.  But this is really helped
>because I know the program so well, particularly how it evaluates positions.
>It isn't "easy" to exploit it, but every now and then I get away with it.  Of
>course, 1 out of 20 is not exactly spectacular...

Robert,
Would you be so kind as to share with us those scores where you have won?
It may enhance the fun we all might have with Crafty-who knows what we might
learn.



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