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Subject: Re: the autoplayer enables learning in learner-prg's

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 04:09:47 11/15/98

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On November 14, 1998 at 19:07:55, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On November 14, 1998 at 14:04:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>>Others (who have also bought junior5) have found out the same.
>
>fact, these persons have posted here.
>
>>>Ed claimed the same very early.
>
>fact too. ed said that the fritz5 autoplayer stops rebel from learning, posted
>in old discussions months ago.
>i have not said that you claimed something about the junior autoplayer ed.
>i said you claimed the same, meaning you said that rebels learning was not
>working in your observation months before. but anybody oversaw this.
>
>
>>I claimed nothing. Junior5 even hasn't been installed on my autoplayers
>>so I can't know.
>
>i have not said you claimed about junior. junior is only an engine in the fritz5
>user interface. what happens to junior might have also happened to the secret
>chessbase fritz5 autoplayer. and you proofed this autoplayer, or ?
>you had a log-file of the data send from ONE to Other machine, or ?
>And there was nothing in the data. all clean. only that rebel was unable to
>learn. or ? I remember that this was said months ago.
>
>>- Ed -


The F5 autoplayer and the J5 autoplayer are not the same. Porting the Win16
autoplayer to Win32 was too much work, so the J5 autoplayer was rewritten,
based, I believe, on Stefan MK's code.

It's not yet clear what this J5 autoplayer problem is, and whether we are
dealing with a single problem or several unrelated ones, but I don't understand
what this has with saving the opponent's game. In the past, ChessBase
acknowledged a problem in the F5 autoplayer's saving of opponent's game, but at
least apparently this is working ok in the J5 autoplayer.

If a J5 autoplaying session hangs or crashes in some conditions that are yet
unclear, to conclude that this happens deliberately to handicap the opponent is
a weird and hostile interpretation.

Amir




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