Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 11:18:32 11/15/98
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On November 15, 1998 at 11:49:14, Keith Ian Price wrote: >Amir-- > >The ones that do, like Rebel which was on the top of the SSDF list, would be >enough to boost Fritz's SSDF rating by several points. I am not saying that this >happened, but now that the Junior 5 autoplayer also has a problem with letting >the opponent save its games, I would have to say that it is worth a few >questions on your part to Chessbase. If they told you that they did a complete >re-write of the autoplayer code for Junior from Stefan's published source, then >it would seem very strange that they would have reversed the save game/new game >sequence in doing so. This , especially in light of the previously published >complaints of similar behavior in Fritz 5. e x a c t l y ! I find this situation incredible. Months over months they have claimed that we are trying a smear campaign and now , since we HAVE the chance to find out, because they HAVE given us the software, and we have evidence that there IS something strange, or not understandable, they still to call us liars and to insult and offend against us. I don't see how this can change the facts. >While the messenger may be biased against Chessbase, :-)) > and while his method of >"speculation" may not be approved by everyone, his message is not therefore >automatically untrue. i have posted the code of the autoplayer in another post. look yourself. >There is enough strangeness, and plausible motive, not to >dismiss this out-of-hand as a "sick" interpretation. thanks. i also think sick is an offensive attack on me. but i can stand it. and i will not complain to any moderator, even not to the one who calls me sick. maybe i once will request that he has to post with a disclaimer, because he is in commercial business with the company i talk about. so i think his judgement is not really objective, since money is floading from hamburg to israel :-))) >Since they told you that they had re-written the code based on Stefan's public >domain code, could you ask them to publish that section of code for Junior 5 to >eliminate "speculation" immediately? There can be no trade secrets involved, if >what they told you is true. I have done so here. please watch ... >In fact, Chessbase has brought this inquisition on themselves, with the >introduction of a secret autoplayer in the first place. The secrecy was supposed >to prevent people from playing Fritz in autoplayer games, and now that they have >decided to include it in Fritz6, they would be wise to publish the Fritz 5 >source code for the autoplayer, as well. Wise, that is, if things are as you >believe them to be. However, if they refuse to publish either, I do not claim >this to be prima facie evidence of wrongdoing, merely sufficient "troubling" >coincidences to warrant speculation. right. we didn't start the fire ! >The ball really is in their court, if this problem is reproducible. right.
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