Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:26:20 11/25/03
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On November 25, 2003 at 09:16:45, Peter Berger wrote:
>For information about setup and rules:
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?329237
What book are you using? 1. f4 is hardly an ideal opening for a computer
to play, and it is something Crafty would _never_ play against another
computer. Do you have a bookc.bin or books.bin file???
>
>Before the match I wondered how a won game for Junior was most likely to look
>like. Game 2 already gave a clue, but it ended as a draw.
>
>Game 5 was the most interesting one so far. Crafty chose a Bird setup that
>turned out to be a good choice.
>Junior out of book early had trouble to find a good plan. 6...Bf5?! looks much
>like a computer move.
>The position at move 15 should favor White.
>
>17. Rf2?! that creates some ugly self-bind was no good idea though and probably
>spoilt any advantage - why not just 17. Kh1 ?
>
>At move 20 Junior was forced to give a pawn. Here is the only point where it is
>easy for a humble human to notice an inaccuracy as 20...Bc8 has to be more exact
>than 20...Bd7. I also don't really understand what would make the latter look
>more attractive for a program.
>
>So we got the common theme of the match again - space advantage vs pawn.
>
>Again programs disagreed heavily (more than a pawn difference in eval) and both
>thought they were better.
>
>This time Crafty was clearly wrong IMHO - for example at move 29 it still showed
>a positive eval when it is already in serious trouble.
>
>[D]3r4/5kb1/1qp3pp/p2n1p2/P4P2/2P4N/1P2Q1PP/R1B4K b - - 0 1
>
>Crafty stayed pretty relaxed for quite some time while Junior slowly squeezed
>it, followed by a king side attack.
>
>For this spectator it was fascinating to watch how Junior resisted the
>temptation to win back material early several times to not give Crafty
>counterchances.
>If there were missed chances for Crafty to save itself somewhere I don't know.
>
>Quite a game by Junior.
>
>(all comments without any warranty at all of course)
>
>Standing: Junior 1 - Crafty 1 ( 3 draws)
>
>Peter
>
>[Event "Blitz:120'+10""]
>[Site "Berlin"]
>[Date "2003.11.25"]
>[Round "5"]
>[White "Crafty 19.4"]
>[Black "Junior 8.0.0.2"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A03"]
>[Annotator "P233-PIV2.0GHz"]
>[PlyCount "136"]
>[TimeControl "7200+10"]
>
>{16MB, Junior8.ctg, P233MMX
>} 1. f4 {0} Nf6 {1} 2.Nf3 {4} d5 {0} 3. e3 {(g3) 4} g6 {0} 4. Be2 {(b3) 4}
>Bg7 {0} 5. O-O {4} O-O {0} 6. d3 {(De1) 4} Bf5 {-0.40 197} 7. Nc3 {(d4) 266}
>c5 {-0.33 213} 8. Ne5 {(d4) 269} Nc6 {-0.47 480} 9. Bf3 {208}
>Qc7 {-0.55 181} 10. e4 {(d4) 198} dxe4 {-0.17 373} 11. dxe4 {1}
>Be6 {-0.10 174} 12. Nxc6 {197} bxc6 {-0.05 5} 13. e5 {369} Rad8 {0.06 212}
>14. Qe2 {142} Nd5 {0.00 0} 15. Ne4 {(Ld2) 211} c4 {-0.16 258}
>16. c3 {(Le3) 5} Qb6+ {-0.23 161} 17. Rf2 {(Kh1) 7} f6 {-0.63 244}
>18. exf6 {48} exf6 {-0.70 62} 19. a4 {(Sd2) 121} f5 {-0.58 156} 20. Ng5 {11}
>Bd7 {-0.56 218} 21. Qxc4 {(Lxd5+) 170} Rfe8 {-0.56 146} 22. Qf1 {(Le2) 14}
>h6 {-0.83 150} 23. Nh3 {(a5) 14} a5 {-1.00 345} 24. Kh1 {(Ld2) 5}
>Bc8 {-1.02 123} 25. Rd2 {(Dg1) 58} Ba6 {-1.02 176} 26. Be2 {165}
>Rxe2 {-1.07 0} 27. Rxe2 {161} Kf7 {-1.12 0} 28. Qf2 {(De1) 156}
>Bxe2 {-1.08 38} 29. Qxe2 {11} Re8 {-1.05 89} 30. Qd1 {(Df1) 125}
>Kg8 {-1.15 183} 31. Ra3 {150} Qa6 {-0.90 0} 32. Ra1 {(Tb3) 143}
>Nf6 {-1.02 82} 33. Bd2 {(Sf2) 142} Ne4 {-0.79 267} 34. Qc2 {(Db3+) 4}
>Nc5 {-0.74 265} 35. Ng1 {(b3) 138} Qd3 {-1.21 81} 36. Rc1 {42}
>Qc4 {-0.86 171} 37. Ra1 {(Td1) 4} Nd3 {-1.24 165} 38. h3 {142}
>Bf6 {-1.13 187} 39. Rb1 {(Kh2) 131} Re7 {-1.21 84} 40. b3 {134}
>Qe4 {-1.08 0} 41. Kh2 {(Da2) 148} g5 {-0.97 74} 42. c4 {(Tf1) 120}
>g4 {-0.98 75} 43. hxg4 {117} fxg4 {-1.30 0} 44. g3 {109} h5 {-0.90 218}
>45. Rd1 {5} h4 {-1.17 21} 46. Bc1 {86} Rd7 {-1.24 0} 47. Qe2 {110}
>Qf5 {-1.23 0} 48. Be3 {107} hxg3+ {-1.53 0} 49. Kxg3 {121} Qh7 {-1.41 101}
>50. Bc1 {(Kg2) 120} Bh4+ {-1.74 34} 51. Kg2 {58} Qf5 {-1.79 0}
>52. Qe8+ {188} Kh7 {-1.70 0} 53. Qe3 {87} Rd8 {-1.81 37} 54. Kh2 {90}
>Kg6 {-2.00 12} 55. Rf1 {87} Nxc1 {-2.22 5} 56. Rxc1 {76} Rd3 {-2.28 10}
>57. Qe8+ {88} Kg7 {-2.88 54} 58. Ne2 {23} Rd2 {-2.85 21} 59. Qe3 {54}
>Rxe2+ {-2.83 0} 60. Qxe2 {25} Qxf4+ {-2.84 0} 61. Kg2 {75} Qxc1 {-2.96 0}
>62. Qxg4+ {77} Qg5 {-2.96 0} 63. Kh3 {(Dxg5+) 77} Qxg4+ {-3.49 12}
>64. Kxg4 {58} Bf6 {-3.88 0} 65. Kf5 {(c5) 161} Kf7 {-4.18 22}
>66. Ke4 {(Kg4) 218} Ke6 {-4.94 20} 67. c5 {(Kd3) 147} Be5 {-5.69 70}
>68. Kd3 {(b4) 30} Kd5 {-6.98 12} 0-1
>
>
>And the ChessBase-PGN version:
>
>[Event "Blitz:120'+10""]
>[Site "Berlin"]
>[Date "2003.11.25"]
>[Round "5"]
>[White "Crafty 19.4"]
>[Black "Junior 8.0.0.2"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A03"]
>[Annotator "P233-PIV2.0GHz"]
>[PlyCount "136"]
>[TimeControl "7200+10"]
>
>{16MB, Junior8.ctg, P233MMX
>} 1. f4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 2.
>Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. e3 {(g3) [%emt 0:00:04]} g6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Be2 {(b3) [%emt 0:00:04]} Bg7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. O-O {
>[%emt 0:00:04]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. d3 {(De1) [%emt 0:00:04]} Bf5 {
>[%eval -40,16] [%emt 0:03:17]} 7. Nc3 {(d4) [%emt 0:04:26]} c5 {
>[%eval -33,16] [%emt 0:03:33]} 8. Ne5 {(d4) [%emt 0:04:29]} Nc6 {
>[%eval -47,15] [%emt 0:08:00]} 9. Bf3 {[%emt 0:03:28]} Qc7 {
>[%eval -55,14] [%emt 0:03:01]} 10. e4 {(d4) [%emt 0:03:18]} dxe4 {
>[%eval -17,14] [%emt 0:06:13]} 11. dxe4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Be6 {
>[%eval -10,14] [%emt 0:02:54]} 12. Nxc6 {[%emt 0:03:17]} bxc6 {
>[%eval -5,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} 13. e5 {[%emt 0:06:09]} Rad8 {
>[%eval 6,15] [%emt 0:03:32]} 14. Qe2 {[%emt 0:02:22]} Nd5 {
>[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Ne4 {(Ld2) [%emt 0:03:31]} c4 {
>[%eval -16,14] [%emt 0:04:18]} 16. c3 {(Le3) [%emt 0:00:05]} Qb6+ {
>[%eval -23,13] [%emt 0:02:41]} 17. Rf2 {(Kh1) [%emt 0:00:07]} f6 {
>[%eval -63,15] [%emt 0:04:04]} 18. exf6 {[%emt 0:00:48]} exf6 {
>[%eval -70,13] [%emt 0:01:02]} 19. a4 {(Sd2) [%emt 0:02:01]} f5 {
>[%eval -58,13] [%emt 0:02:36]} 20. Ng5 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Bd7 {
>[%eval -56,14] [%emt 0:03:38]} 21. Qxc4 {(Lxd5+) [%emt 0:02:50]} Rfe8 {
>[%eval -56,14] [%emt 0:02:26]} 22. Qf1 {(Le2) [%emt 0:00:14]} h6 {
>[%eval -83,14] [%emt 0:02:30]} 23. Nh3 {(a5) [%emt 0:00:14]} a5 {
>[%eval -100,15] [%emt 0:05:45]} 24. Kh1 {(Ld2) [%emt 0:00:05]} Bc8 {
>[%eval -102,15] [%emt 0:02:03]} 25. Rd2 {(Dg1) [%emt 0:00:58]} Ba6 {
>[%eval -102,14] [%emt 0:02:56]} 26. Be2 {[%emt 0:02:45]} Rxe2 {
>[%eval -107,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27. Rxe2 {[%emt 0:02:41]} Kf7 {
>[%eval -112,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Qf2 {(De1) [%emt 0:02:36]} Bxe2 {
>[%eval -108,14] [%emt 0:00:38]} 29. Qxe2 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Re8 {
>[%eval -105,15] [%emt 0:01:29]} 30. Qd1 {(Df1) [%emt 0:02:05]} Kg8 {
>[%eval -115,15] [%emt 0:03:03]} 31. Ra3 {[%emt 0:02:30]} Qa6 {
>[%eval -90,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 32. Ra1 {(Tb3) [%emt 0:02:23]} Nf6 {
>[%eval -102,14] [%emt 0:01:22]} 33. Bd2 {(Sf2) [%emt 0:02:22]} Ne4 {
>[%eval -79,14] [%emt 0:04:27]} 34. Qc2 {(Db3+) [%emt 0:00:04]} Nc5 {
>[%eval -74,14] [%emt 0:04:25]} 35. Ng1 {(b3) [%emt 0:02:18]} Qd3 {
>[%eval -121,13] [%emt 0:01:21]} 36. Rc1 {[%emt 0:00:42]} Qc4 {
>[%eval -86,14] [%emt 0:02:51]} 37. Ra1 {(Td1) [%emt 0:00:04]} Nd3 {
>[%eval -124,14] [%emt 0:02:45]} 38. h3 {[%emt 0:02:22]} Bf6 {
>[%eval -113,15] [%emt 0:03:07]} 39. Rb1 {(Kh2) [%emt 0:02:11]} Re7 {
>[%eval -121,13] [%emt 0:01:24]} 40. b3 {[%emt 0:02:14]} Qe4 {
>[%eval -108,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 41. Kh2 {(Da2) [%emt 0:02:28]} g5 {
>[%eval -97,13] [%emt 0:01:14]} 42. c4 {(Tf1) [%emt 0:02:00]} g4 {
>[%eval -98,13] [%emt 0:01:15]} 43. hxg4 {[%emt 0:01:57]} fxg4 {
>[%eval -130,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 44. g3 {[%emt 0:01:49]} h5 {
>[%eval -90,14] [%emt 0:03:38]} 45. Rd1 {[%emt 0:00:05]} h4 {
>[%eval -117,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 46. Bc1 {[%emt 0:01:26]} Rd7 {
>[%eval -124,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Qe2 {[%emt 0:01:50]} Qf5 {
>[%eval -123,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 48. Be3 {[%emt 0:01:47]} hxg3+ {
>[%eval -153,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 49. Kxg3 {[%emt 0:02:01]} Qh7 {
>[%eval -141,14] [%emt 0:01:41]} 50. Bc1 {(Kg2) [%emt 0:02:00]} Bh4+ {
>[%eval -174,11] [%emt 0:00:34]} 51. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:58]} Qf5 {
>[%eval -179,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 52. Qe8+ {[%emt 0:03:08]} Kh7 {
>[%eval -170,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 53. Qe3 {[%emt 0:01:27]} Rd8 {
>[%eval -181,14] [%emt 0:00:37]} 54. Kh2 {[%emt 0:01:30]} Kg6 {
>[%eval -200,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} 55. Rf1 {[%emt 0:01:27]} Nxc1 {
>[%eval -222,13] [%emt 0:00:05]} 56. Rxc1 {[%emt 0:01:16]} Rd3 {
>[%eval -228,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} 57. Qe8+ {[%emt 0:01:28]} Kg7 {
>[%eval -288,13] [%emt 0:00:54]} 58. Ne2 {[%emt 0:00:23]} Rd2 {
>[%eval -285,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 59. Qe3 {[%emt 0:00:54]} Rxe2+ {
>[%eval -283,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Qxe2 {[%emt 0:00:25]} Qxf4+ {
>[%eval -284,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 61. Kg2 {[%emt 0:01:15]} Qxc1 {
>[%eval -296,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 62. Qxg4+ {[%emt 0:01:17]} Qg5 {
>[%eval -296,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 63. Kh3 {(Dxg5+) [%emt 0:01:17]} Qxg4+ {
>[%eval -349,14] [%emt 0:00:12]} 64. Kxg4 {[%emt 0:00:58]} Bf6 {
>[%eval -388,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 65. Kf5 {(c5) [%emt 0:02:41]} Kf7 {
>[%eval -418,23] [%emt 0:00:22]} 66. Ke4 {(Kg4) [%emt 0:03:38]} Ke6 {
>[%eval -494,23] [%emt 0:00:20]} 67. c5 {(Kd3) [%emt 0:02:27]} Be5 {
>[%eval -569,23] [%emt 0:01:10]} 68. Kd3 {(b4) [%emt 0:00:30]} Kd5 {
>[%eval -698,19] [%emt 0:00:12]} 0-1
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