Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Rebel 10 Settings

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 08:58:48 11/16/98

Go up one level in this thread


On November 15, 1998 at 20:07:05, Howard Exner wrote:

>Although Rebel doesn't have fancy names for different chess playing
>personalities it does offer lots of flexibility in the various settings,
>AntiGM, Selection, Combination and Playstyle. Some settings I notice can
>detect best moves a ply earlier, usually when one sets Selection lower to say,
>3 (for endgames) and 4 for middlegame positions. These positions for example
>are solved much quicker when selection is set to 4, AntiGM=Strong and
>playStyle = Active or Aggressive.
>
>4r1k1/p1pb1ppp/Qbp1r3/8/1P6/2Pq1B2/R2P1PPP/2B2RK1 b - - id Ren5 - Qxf3; bm d3f3;
>rr3qk1/1b3p2/4pPp1/1pppP3/p6Q/PnPP2P1/1P3PB1/R3R1K1 w - - id Kh2 - Cmb; bm Kh2;
>8/p5Nk/3B2pp/8/2PP1pn1/4p3/P3P1Bq/R2R1K2 b - - id Nf2 - Cmb; bm Nf2;
>
>Overall my favoutite choice is AntiGM=Strong, PlayStlye=Agressive and
>Selection=Normal. I like Rebel's use of Normal Selection setting as it
>adapts itself to the position. Sometimes it misses as in the above 3 examples
>but overall it seems to hit on the right choice based on the positions I've been
>testing.
>
>I'm wondering as Computers get faster will the Selection settings
>get smaller. Too high a selection setting sometimes makes Rebel not consider
>certain moves for more than a brief passing. Will added speed allow the program
>to spend a bit of extra time on a wider range of moves so as to not miss
>something (as in the trend of Rebel 10, which according to the description on
>Ed's homepage that the selection settings where reduced overall)?
>
>Anyone else experimenting with the different parameters that chess programs
>offer? I am aware of the CM series alternate settings. How about other
>programs?

Yes, added speed will allow selective searchers such as Rebel to consider moves
(which are razored) to a deeper full width level. The controversy is whether
brute force type programs will gain as much from the increased speed. I believe
they won't. Rebel 10 isn't as selective as Rebel 9 but with increased computer
speed, I believe that it should benefit more in comparison to the brute forcers.
However there is a limit to this increased benefit. At around 16-20 ply full
width , I believe that the 2 styles of programming converge in obtaining
benefits from increased speed. Note that we have a long way to go before the
selective searchers like Rebel 10 reach 16 ply full width so the next couple of
years should see that type of program really benefit from faster computers.
--
Komputer Korner



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.