Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 05:25:42 11/27/03
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On November 27, 2003 at 04:36:20, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: >On November 27, 2003 at 03:06:02, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On November 27, 2003 at 02:59:36, Gerald Wright wrote: >> >>>The Top players in the computer chess championship are all capable of drawing or >>>winning a match vs Kasparov or them in the top 10. >> >> As long as 2200 ELO players can get a lot of draws >> with safe and boring playing style the best comp >> programs do not have more than 2400 Elo. >> Kurt >What you are saying Kurt does not make sense at all.A 2400 elo player could >not draw Kasaprov under any circumstances.Please check the definition of ELO. >Also your claim of 2200 Elo players getting draws is Contrary to my own private >testing of many many games against 2200 Elo players. Playing computers are _not_ the same as playing Kasparov or _humans_ whatsoever. It is often easy to draw machines as Kurt suggests, winning is far more difficult, unless of course you obtain a large "book" advantage, with the White pieces. I've have found different ways to neuter computers, and so have many here who buy programmes to play against. It's still even quite possible to bring them down with carefully played K-Side attacks. By the time the comp sees it, it's too late. Humans vs Humans in my experience can be far more difficult than a machine that is "happy" to settle with a draw. People care, machines can't. People are less predictable than machines. Remember that diagram you posted, with the B at g5? Well I've used that same "trap" against computers. It often works well. Crafty, it fails against, due to code Dr. Hyatt put in his programme. Shredder in some cases also doesn't fall for the "trick" but it has in positions that are _hard_ to see that it loses taking on g5. One of many little schemes that have grabbed me wins. Believe me, sometimes the computer just helps you out...so it has very little to do with Human vs Compter ELO...in many ways it's not the same thing.
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