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Subject: Re: Crafty Clone was disqualified, what a shame

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:51:21 11/27/03

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On November 27, 2003 at 16:34:03, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On November 27, 2003 at 15:17:51, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1330
>
>After reading at the above link, I find that disqualifying him in the middle of
>tournament a little illogical. If such an accusation is made, it should be
>resolved before the event takes place if there is time, otherwise it should be
>resolved afterward. Doing so during the event is disruptive to the event and a
>significant distracting handicap to the accused should they be exonerated.
>
>In this case, the accusation was made during the event and the accused is busy
>with math exams. The stress of exams _and_ an accusation of fraud must be
>terrible. Imagine if the accusation should turn out to be false? Yikes!
>
>What makes their decision to disqualify during the event particularly odd is
>LIST would have to pull off a miracle to win the event. What's the harm in
>letting a seeming crafty clone to continue to play then? It's not like there is
>a serious chance that it would win and _then_ be disqualifed. That would
>certainly hurt the event.

I totally agree.

>
>BTW, one thing that bothers me is the rule that "...a listing of all
>game-related code running on the system must be available on demand to the
>Tournament Director.”
>
>Why should they get to see _all_ of it? I can see justification for requiring
>showing enough of the source to show it is probably an original work, but _all_
>is unreasonable IMO. Programmers have their secrets to keep. I don't care about
>ICGA's promise that it would be kept confidential. Why should a participant have
>to unnecessarily depend on this promise being kept?

I think that the participants should say that they refuse to play if list does
not continue to play.

This is the only way to teach the organizers a lesson.

Of course this decision should be done only if some programmers support it and
it should not be done if only one or two programmers support it.

The question if List is quilty is irrelevant.

people came to play so throwing a player in the middle of the tournament should
not be done because it means that one program gets no game and it is the
interest of most programmers to have games.

Uri



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