Author: Werner Schuele
Date: 14:19:39 11/27/03
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Hi Kurt, we do not have the engine running in Graz. I think its better to analyze a game in Graz with crafty19.03 e.g. Fritz-List. Here the moves in the same search death are more identical, not the evaluations. I just tried it with 5 moves. I do not think List5.04 is a crafty clone. But try this to see more clear. Greetings Werner On November 27, 2003 at 17:13:05, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >Comparison Crafty 19.03 and List 5.40 (P4 1.8/32 MB hash) >Test 1: level 120'/40 starting with 1st move without book >Test 2: level 120'740 starting after 1.e4 without book > >Some observations: >- different numer Kn/s >- not identical evaluation >- other main lines >- not the same time management >- different sorting of moves >- moves played out are not identical > >Conclusion for me: List can't be a Crafty clone. > > >Vergleich Crafty 19.03 und List 5.04 (P4 1.8/32 MB hash) >Test 1: Stufe 120'/40 ab 1. Zug ohne Buch >Test 2: Stufe 120'/40 ab 1...Zug ohne Buch nach 1.e4 > >Es gibt folgenden Abweichungen: >- unterschiedliche Knotenzahl/Sekunde >- andere Bewertungen >- abweichende Hauptvarianten >- nicht identisches Zeitmanagement >- ungleiche Sortierung der Bestzüge >- teilweise andere ausgespielte Züge > >Für mich also keine Frage: List ist kein Crafty-Clone > > >Crafty 19.03 - Utzinger,K >rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 19.03: > >1.e4 > = (0.25) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1.e4 d5 > = (-0.19) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.e4 d5 2.Nc3 dxe4 3.Nxe4 > = (0.05) Depth: 3/5 00:00:00 >1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 > = (0.11) Depth: 3/5 00:00:00 >1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 > = (-0.19) Depth: 4/9 00:00:00 >1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 > = (0.07) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1.e3 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 > = (0.08) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1.e3 Nc6 2.Nf3 d5 > = (-0.23) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 18kN >1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5 > = (-0.19) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 22kN >1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Bf5 4.Bf4 > = (0.05) Depth: 7/15 00:00:00 47kN >1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Bf5 4.Bf4 Nbd7 > = (-0.20) Depth: 8/17 00:00:00 123kN >1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Ng4 4.d4 e6 > = (-0.10) Depth: 8/17 00:00:00 304kN >1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e5 Ne4 5.d4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 > = (0.03) Depth: 9/21 00:00:01 584kN >1.Nf3 e6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.e4 d5 4.d3 Bb4 5.Bd2 > = (0.04) Depth: 9/21 00:00:02 1006kN >1.Nf3 e6 2.d4 Nc6 3.e3 Nh6 4.Nbd2 d5 5.Bd3 Bd6 > = (-0.08) Depth: 10/26 00:00:04 2105kN >1.Nf3 d5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nf6 4.e3 > = (0.01) Depth: 11/26 00:00:12 5663kN >1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 e6 > = (0.11) Depth: 11/26 00:00:19 8872kN >1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Ng4 5.d4 d5 6.h3 Nh6 > = (0.01) Depth: 12/27 00:00:31 15024kN >1.e4 Nc6 2.Nc3 e6 3.Nf3 > = (0.10) Depth: 13/28 00:01:27 41693kN > >(Utzinger, MyTown 27.11.2003) > >List 504 - Utzinger,K >rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1 > >Analysis by List 504: > >1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.Qxd4 d6 > = (0.19) Depth: 5 00:00:00 4kN >1.d4 d5 2.e3 e6 3.Bd2 > = (0.20) Depth: 5 00:00:00 6kN >1.d4 d5 2.e3 e6 3.Bd2 Bd6 > = (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:00 11kN >1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.d3 Qe5+ 4.Qe2 Nc6 > = (0.06) Depth: 6 00:00:00 33kN >1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bc4 > = (0.14) Depth: 7 00:00:00 90kN >1.d4 d5 2.e3 e6 3.Bd2 Bd6 4.Bd3 > = (0.20) Depth: 7 00:00:00 106kN >1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.c3 Qe4+ 5.Qe2 Qd5 > = (0.05) Depth: 8 00:00:00 253kN >1.d4 d5 2.e3 e6 3.Bd2 Bd6 4.Bd3 Bd7 5.f4 > = (0.12) Depth: 9 00:00:01 650kN >1.e4 d5 2.e5 d4 3.d3 e6 4.Bd2 Nc6 5.Nf3 > = (0.18) Depth: 9 00:00:02 1077kN >1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bd7 4.Bd3 g5 5.Bd2 h5 > = (0.12) Depth: 10 00:00:07 4120kN >1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.d4 e6 5.Bf4 Bd7 6.Bb5 Bxb5 > = (0.12) Depth: 11 00:00:14 8284kN >1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d4 Bb4 5.d5 Ne7 6.Nxe5 Nxe4 > = (0.15) Depth: 12 00:00:46 27375kN >1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bc4 d6 5.0-0 0-0 6.d3 Bxc3 7.bxc3 Bd7 > = (0.15) Depth: 13 00:01:55 69828kN > >(Utzinger, MyTown 27.11.2003) > >******************************************************************************************* >Utzinger,K - Crafty 19.03 >rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq e3 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 19.03: > >1...d5 > = (0.19) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >1...d5 2.d3 > ² (0.39) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >1...d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 > = (0.19) Depth: 3/8 00:00:00 >1...d5 2.d3 e5 3.Nc3 > ² (0.33) Depth: 4/11 00:00:00 >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd4 > = (0.19) Depth: 5/12 00:00:00 >1...d5 2.e5 Bf5 3.d4 Nd7 4.Nf3 > ² (0.33) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 35kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+ 4.Nge2 Bg4 5.d3 > ² (0.28) Depth: 7/15 00:00:00 87kN >1...e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 Bc5 4.Na4 Bb4 > = (0.20) Depth: 7/15 00:00:00 162kN >1...Nc6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 e5 4.Nf3 Bc5 > = (0.19) Depth: 7/15 00:00:00 212kN >1...Nc6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 d5 4.e5 Ne4 5.d4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 > ² (0.41) Depth: 8/24 00:00:01 333kN >1...d5 2.e5 e6 3.d4 Bb4+ 4.c3 Be7 5.Bb5+ Bd7 6.Bd3 > ² (0.32) Depth: 8/24 00:00:01 533kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bc4 b5 6.Be2 > ² (0.27) Depth: 9/24 00:00:02 1110kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Nc3 Qf5 5.Nb5 Qe4+ 6.Qe2 Qf4 > ² (0.45) Depth: 10/24 00:00:04 2030kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Bg5 Nxd4 6.Qxd4 d6 > ² (0.44) Depth: 10/24 00:00:09 4255kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Bd6 6.f3 Bb4+ 7.Nd2 > ² (0.31) Depth: 11/30 00:00:22 10499kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Bb5 Bc5 5.0-0 0-0 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.Nxe5 > ² (0.43) Depth: 12/30 00:00:49 23338kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Qe7 4.Nf3 Qxe4+ 5.Be2 Be7 6.Nc3 Qg4 7.0-0 0-0 8.Re1 > ² (0.36) Depth: 13/31 00:02:47 79857kN > >(Utzinger, MyTown 27.11.2003) > > >Utzinger,K - List 504 >rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq e3 0 1 > >Analysis by List 504: > >1...e5 2.d4 Qh4 3.Nc3 d5 > ² (0.37) Depth: 5 00:00:00 7kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.d3 Qe5+ 4.Qe2 Nc6 > = (0.06) Depth: 5 00:00:00 14kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bc4 > = (0.14) Depth: 6 00:00:00 33kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+ 4.Be2 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qd6 > = (0.07) Depth: 7 00:00:00 124kN >1...d5 2.e5 d4 3.d3 e6 4.Bd2 Nc6 5.Nf3 > = (0.18) Depth: 8 00:00:00 390kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+ 4.Be2 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qf6 6.d4 e6 > = (0.19) Depth: 9 00:00:02 1280kN >1...Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 e6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bd3 Bd7 > = (0.16) Depth: 9 00:00:04 2383kN >1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bd7 4.Bd3 h5 5.Bd2 g5 > = (0.12) Depth: 9 00:00:06 3609kN >1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.Nf3 c4 5.Bg5 Be7 6.h4 > = (0.16) Depth: 10 00:00:09 5063kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.d4 e6 5.Bf4 Bd7 6.Bb5 Bxb5 > = (0.12) Depth: 10 00:00:11 6393kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Bc4 c6 5.a4 e6 6.d3 Bd6 7.Be3 > = (0.22) Depth: 11 00:00:17 10252kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d4 Bb4 5.d5 Ne7 6.Nxe5 Nxe4 > = (0.15) Depth: 11 00:00:37 22159kN >1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bc4 d6 5.0-0 0-0 6.d3 Bxc3 7.bxc3 Bd7 > = (0.15) Depth: 12 00:01:07 40593kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.d4 e6 5.Nf3 Bd7 6.d5 Bb4 7.dxe6 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 fxe6 > = (0.14) Depth: 12 00:01:22 50318kN >1...d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe6+ 4.Be2 Qg6 5.Bf3 c6 6.d3 e5 7.Be3 Qf6 8.a3 Bf5 > = (0.25) Depth: 13 00:02:17 85184kN >1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Bd3 Bd6 5.Ne2 Nf6 6.0-0 0-0 7.Re1 Re8 8.Bf4 > = (0.21) Depth: 13 00:05:16 196728kN > >(Utzinger, MyTown 27.11.2003)
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