Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 15:09:52 11/27/03
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On November 27, 2003 at 18:06:37, Bob Durrett wrote: >On November 27, 2003 at 17:59:08, Andrew Williams wrote: > >>On November 27, 2003 at 17:55:19, Bob Durrett wrote: >> >>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:42:58, margolies,marc wrote: >>> >>>>These are not charges based upon LIST's <<performance>> in a direct >>>>way--Although all of LIST's defenders offer counter-proof regarding different >>>>performance characteristics between Crafty and LIST. >>>>The charge is PLAGIARISM-- lifting of (some)code. The Programmer in question has >>>>not responded to the commitee's request for proof with a defense (according to >>>>Levy's Report--I have no direct knowledge) therefore the Commitee had to act to >>>>protect the legitimacy of the Tournament. Also the commitee's action were a >>>>response to a complaint by an (unnamed) tournament participant who has standing >>>>to do so. >>> >>>The "committee" has no legal authority. Plagiarism is a violation of law, at >>>least in some Countries. The individual suffering damages from plagiarism can >>>seek and obtain compensation in a duly constituted Civil Court of Law. The >>>"committee" is NOT a Court of Law. They have no business trying to pretend >>>otherwise. They run risks by their own actions. They have no authority to >>>judge and punish someone for a law violation and they have no authority to >>>create their own laws either. In other words, this "committee" has put itself >>>out on a very fragile limb. Let's just hope that the programmer has a very good >>>sense of humor. >>> >>>Bob D. >> >>This is ridiculous. The tournament is a competition which is held under the >>auspices of the ICGA. They set some rules. They are entitled to hold the >>participants to those rules. > >Tournament Directors and the ICGA are not immune. Tournament Directors can and >have been sued in the past. Sometimes their authority goes to their heads and >they assume that they have more authority than they have. Incidentally, in case >you wonder, I NEVER had any problem with tournament directors. Maybe that's >because I always followed the rules. > >Bob D. > > >>What is not clear is whether this is an appropriate case to *apply* the rules. >>In other words, on what basis do they believe that List is a clone? I think that >>most people in the wider community think the accusation is strange, to say the >>least. But the rules are clear; if they had reason to suspect that a program is >>a clone, they have the right to see the source code. The question is, why did >>they suspect it? >> >>Andrew Bob the ICGA are immune. You seem not to understand their situation, or position?
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