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Subject: Re: Having Read David Levy's Charges about LIST>>>

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 15:17:49 11/27/03

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On November 27, 2003 at 18:12:48, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 27, 2003 at 18:04:56, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:55:19, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:42:58, margolies,marc wrote:
>>>
>>>>These are not charges based upon LIST's <<performance>> in a direct
>>>>way--Although all of LIST's defenders offer counter-proof regarding different
>>>>performance characteristics between Crafty and LIST.
>>>>The charge is PLAGIARISM-- lifting of (some)code. The Programmer in question has
>>>>not responded to the commitee's request for proof with a defense (according to
>>>>Levy's Report--I have no direct knowledge) therefore the Commitee had to act to
>>>>protect the legitimacy of the Tournament. Also the commitee's action were a
>>>>response to a complaint by an (unnamed) tournament participant who has standing
>>>>to do so.
>>>
>>>The "committee" has no legal authority.  Plagiarism is a violation of law, at
>>>least in some Countries.  The individual suffering damages from plagiarism can
>>>seek and obtain compensation in a duly constituted Civil Court of Law. The
>>>"committee" is NOT a Court of Law.  They have no business trying to pretend
>>>otherwise.  They run risks by their own actions.  They have no authority to
>>>judge and punish someone for a law violation and they have no authority to
>>>create their own laws either.  In other words, this "committee" has put itself
>>>out on a very fragile limb.  Let's just hope that the programmer has a very good
>>>sense of humor.
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>Sorry Bob, but you don't know what you're talking about. The ICGA does have the
>>legal authority to expel List, if the author doesn't meet his or her
>>obligations.
>>
>>They _are_ entitled to view the source code, and the participants know this.
>>
>>Since the author of List didn't return their messages by the deadline, the ICGA
>>must enforce the rules, no exceptions.
>>
>>Terry
>
>Well, there's always two sides to every coin.  If I am wrong it wouldn't be the
>first time!  : )
>
>I really hate it when organizers try to impose unreasonable rules.  It is one of
>my hangups.  Sorry to burden every one else with my pet peeves.  : (
>
>Bob D.

Hey, I understand how people must feel and it really stinks! I'm sure the ICGA
didn't want to make their decision, but had to.

They too have no real choice, the author had to act, and he didn't, forcing
their hand.

Life isn't fair, we all know this.

Terry



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